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  • So am I messed because I wasn’t immersed into English until I turned 3?

    I always considered English as my weaker language, though I speak the language fluently. I’m not as articulate nor am I easy with its usage, though. Despite this setback, however, I have managed to do well for myself in terms of communicating with my peers and writing professionally.

    Most of the time, I feel that I am not as focused (comfortable) on the usage of this vernacular as I am with my native language.

    I feel sorta jack of all trades, but master of none.

    So what do you suggest for that dilemma?

    • If you did not get immersed until 3 you may have started off with not the greatest advantage but 3 is not too late. If you read in English this is the best way. Reading is one thing that will build fluency as it is an active not passive activity. I do not mean read the Internet or work stuff, I mean things that you love, 500 page novels a few a week. If you are still weak in English there could be other things going on. However, I have known people who started English at 3 and 5 and have problems and others do not.

    • Age 3 is not too late, read a lot, it is one of the best ways to improve your fluency as you will be exposed to proper grammar and lots of rich vocabulary.

  • I think there is no “too late”. My friend is Croatian, and she was six when she was put in a Hungarian kindergarten (and since then total immersion). I don’t know how much you know about the Hungarian language, but it’s enough to know that it works completely differently from every other language. But she did it, she speaks as everybody else. All I’m saying is that there is no “too late”, though I admit the sooner the better.

  • From my eldest daughter who is 12, she was raised with 2 languages at the same time, her father Thai and myself English, but it was recommended by a linguist to not use the 3rd language, Chinese, due to it might confuse the child, so I used mainly tapes and songs. her 3rd language isn’t as developed, difficult to converse, though her accent is much better than mine!

    However, with my younger daughter and son, I’m now using all languages, wrong or right pronounciation (not a native Thai or Chinese speaker), and found that the little ones substitute some chinese words into their sentences! and have no trouble with their thai accent, as they are getting that from school and other family members.

    little kids brains are like a house, fill it as much as you can when they are young!

    Thanks for the post!

    • I live in Europe and I meet kids that know 3 or 4 languages no problem. The brain flexible when it is young, if you miss this window of language opportunity, it will take many years to make up for it.
      I am a linguist and I think your linguist if wrong. The child might at first be confused a little but begins to create order our of chaos and their brain moves to a much higher level, basically they will be smarter.

  • Comment on Bilingual education

    I am a 22 year old bilingual, I can speak English french and Portuguese. I always spoke Portuguese at home was only majorly exposed to English when I joined school at the age of 3. At the moment I cannot differentiate which of my languages I am better at as I believe i have mastered both of them. The only language I see as second is “French” because I learnt it at a much later age of 12 which I am now close to getting my masters in it. So through personal experience can say that starting a language at the age of 3 is not too late at all. It depends on the intelligence of the child and fundamentally how good of a learner he becomes.

    • Age three is not too late and I am very impressed with your trilingualism. It is never too late to learn a language. I think the optimal time is under the age of 3 but from 3 to 8 there is a lot of opportunity to be perfectly fluent bilingual.
      I still think native speaker sounds are formed under the age of 3.

  • Hi,
    I moved to France at the age of 4 with my family (English being my mother tongue), and went to a French school right from the start. I don’t really remember learning to speak French, it just happened suddenly after appx 3 months. One minute I wasn’t speaking at all, and a few months later I was getting the best marks in the class for French dictation.

    At home we always spoke English, and French was practically forbidden. We had English TV, and my dad, an English language teacher, made me follow the English curriculum in the UK. I hated it at the time! Who likes writing essays at the weekend, and reading out loud every night? But it was all worth it – I got an A in English when I sat GCSEs as an external candidate, and am pleased to say that now at the age of 25 nobody can tell whether I am English or French, either when I speak or write, and this landed me a pretty good job :D

    And it doens’t end there: I studied German up until the age of 18, and Spanish at uni. I even spent a year in Spain so my Spanish is pretty fluent. It might sound like I’m boasting, but I don’t give myself any credit for speaking 4 languages. That’s just what happens when you move abroad at the age of 4!

    So for anyone out there who might have concerns about their children’s bilinguism, this is what needs to be done:
    - move your kids abroad before the age of 5
    - send them to a local school
    - speak to them in English at home, never in the local language
    - only watch TV in English and read books in English
    - get your kids to follow the English language curriculum from back home
    - and bingo, you have a bilingual kid

    • This is very good advice. I am impressed. I have meet many Americans in Europe that speak the local language at home and their kids grow up speaking English with an accent and with a weak vocubulary. You need to speak English at home if you are living abroad.
      Also watch TV in English as well as Youtube etc.

  • Teaching a child a language that you are not perfect in

    I speak German fluently, but with like tons of grammatical mistakes, and I am teaching my 2 year old son german, I have 2 questions:
    Do you think that it is a good idea for me to teach him? I am afraid that he will inherit my mistakes.
    Is it normal that he only knows about 50% of what he knows in Spanish our native language (keep in mind i only see him after work and only when I’ve had a good day) For example he construct sentences using Spanish, or Spanish sentence structure with German words.

    • I think it is great you are teaching your son German. But be more of a teacher than a native speaker. That means expose him to as much German native speaker tools and material like YouTube and TV and Children’s books. You can read to him. If you do this it will be fine. I do this with my daughter and Polish. If he hears it for 3 hours and uses it now and then with you no problem. But I think bad grammar is better than no grammar. The more exposure the better do not be afraid to teach him this language.

  • Too soon to start learning a third language?

    I am a greek-american raised in Greece. I attended an american elementary and a greek-american high school. my first degree is from a greek university and my masters from the U.S I am bilingual and I know a bit of french and very little bit of german and italian.

    my daughter is almost 6 and she is totally bilingual. I speak english to her, i find american girls to come babysit her and she watches tv mostly in english. she goes to a greek school but they have english every day for bilingual kids. (there is only one more bilingual kid in her class but the rest have also been much exposed to the language) my daughter does not yet know how to read or write yet in either language.

    I want her to start learning spanish for a girl who is a native speaker. if she likes it i will also take spanish lessons.

    My question is whether it’s too soon for her to start a third language?

    • My experience with bilingual and trilingual children

      Not at all. I study languages teach languages and am a father of a bilingual daughter myself. It is not too early to start another languages.

      The international children I know speak three or more languages without a problem and only adds to their confidence and makes them unique in a positive way. They are less obsessed with silly things teenage girls get caught up into and more using their brain. I know a girl who speaks Polish, Arabic and English another that speaks Polish, Hungarian and English. I know others that speak many more languages. It does not matter as long as it is fun and not a burden for your daughter. These girls survived adolescence better than their peers in my opinion.

      Studies show that learning languages young makes your brain more flexible when you are older and you maintain your cognitive function. At age six she still has a chance of being a accent-less native speaker.

      There might be a time of struggle but her brain will reorganizes at a higher level and adapt eventually and she will have a unique advantage in life. Better than sent your daughter to Harvard is to have her speaking several languages. Languages are fun and builds confidence similar to playing chess. Watching videos and movies and listening to music in foreign languages opens you up as an adult or a child to another world.

  • How to improve my English?

    Hi, well I hope you can help me. I don’t know in which category I fit in. My parents are Argentinean, and I was born in the States. We lived there till I was 5. I could understand when they spoke in Spanish, but I used to speak in English. However, although I was more fluent in English, I wasn’t as fluent as an English speaking child of my age. To make things worse, we moved to Argentina and I’ve been living here since. When I arrived, my parents sent me to an English institute where I didn’t fit in since there wasn’t a level for me, I was placed with bigger children and I got embarrassed by knowing more. I stopped speaking in English until I was ten, and after that I’ve been learning the language, but I feel that I am “learning” it instead of living it. I’ve tried with native teachers, but I still feel I don’t control the language. I read, watch movies, everything in English, but I feel like I’ve hit a plateau. I’ve just started some German classes, and I notice the difference with my English knowledge but I don’t know how to improve any further. I’m opened to any suggestion! And if there is any piece of advice for German learning I would be very thankful too. Best wishes, and thank you for reading. B.

    • You need to be patient. English language learners read an intermediate stage faster than other languages for various reasons, however, to become really native fluent it is harder than other languages as it is so diverse and widely used and there are so many idioms. You have to be patient. If you could live in an English-speaking country for a while or in some way interact with a native speaker on a regular basis this will help. Movies and books are great as is the radio.

      Eventually with years you will learn most of the idioms and usage. Your grammar seems fine, at least compared to other writers many native speakers so I would not worry about that. More focus on pronunciation at this point as if you reduce your accent you will most likely sound like a native. Americans use basic grammar for example, but can tell foreigner by their accent. Accent work takes work though.

      I have to reduce my accent in Polish. It is possible but you need to practice with audio over and over until you get it right. If you are young it will fall into place anyway with more exposure to tha langauge.

  • Speaking German in the Americas with kids

    Any advice would be appreciated.
    My eldest son was 5 months old when we moved to Germany from England. Since then we have had another son born in Germany. They are now almost 3 and almost 2 (all bar 3 or 4 months) and have been attending Kindergarten in Germany for around 7 to 9 months (5 days a week, 6 hours a day). My husband and I are both English only speakers so they only hear English at home. They both understand German well and have many German words, the eldest speaks more English but he did not attend Kita until he was 2 years old. The youngest started German daycare at 1 so I would say would be more natural in both German and English. I am so proud of them being able to understand both languages and don’t want them to lose this skill, however, we are moving to Vancouver, Canada in 6 weeks time.
    I am able to speak a small amount of German but only to the end of level A1. My husband knows only a few words. Is it possible to keep their German going through TV and films? I am worried through watching only TV that they will not practise pronouncing words and sentences. They obviously cannot read and I find reading childrens books really difficult in German as I don’t understand them enough to read with any expression.
    We have thought about letting the German go and aiming to get them into French Immersion school at 5 but I am told these are very popular so I can’t guarantee it. Daycare in general is very expensive in Vancouver, I would assume that German speaking daycare would be even more so.
    I’m so worried they will lose the ability to speak 2 languages. Any ideas or experience would be appreciated. Thank you.

    • Hats off to you for keeping them bilingual. This is what we did with my daughter when we moved back to the USA. Films and TV. Then we made friend with Polish speaking families in the area so the kids can have play dates.
      In Poland we had a tutor come twice a week when she was learning Chinese.

      I would pay for a tutor to keep up with German if you can afford it. Even once a week and make them study. They will complain but it will open their brains and world more than going to Harvard. Do not ever confuse school with your education.

      I would pay for a tutor, get them books and songs and CDs and movies and computer games, I love computer games in different languages.

      I konw they are young and not ready for books, and computers but songs alone are good. They will fall behind but if you can get play date friends and tutors they need not to.

      You cna learn German and speak it to them even more, even if you have an accent. My wife has an accent in English but speaks to our daughter and she has a British Accent as she love Peppa Pig and Clipper the dog so much. She picked up a lot of words from there.

      Try Peppa pig in German. It is great for vocabulary.

  • How to raise bilingual children

    How do I raise my 4 children in Arabic and English. Live in Australia but my kids understand but don’t speak it as much except a few sentences here and there. Oldest is 10 and youngest is 4. How do we correct this? My first language is Arabic fluent and I speak English excellent as well but husband isn’t, he is more fluent in english and speaks less Arabic. I feel like I have let my kids down by not making them speak from when they were young. Is it too late? The older two get annoyed when I make them respond in Arabic. The younger two don’t.

    • You have to raise the to speak Arabic. It is a language that is important in the world. Like English or Chinese or French or Spanish Arabic is an international world language. Do not let them be upset with you for not teaching them. I say this only to motivate you of course.
      They are at a perfect age. Speak to them in Arabic even if your husband speaks only English. Get a tutor, I did for my daughter and they could watch fun things like movies in Arabic but most important you speak to them and make them understand how important this is.

      If they know how great their culture is maybe the ten-year old will get inspired. I was very curious about the world at that age and loved my heritage. They will protest and complain but who cares.

      My friends that learned other languages, they complained and are now glad they speak it.

      So you have to sell them a little with sugar and a little with vinegar, that is gradually guide them to learn a little more and more.

      Ten is not too old, it is young. You can have native Arabic speakers to communicate with under your roof. Try to get a tutor maybe as it will be different if it is coming from someone else. You can check Gumtree for tutors in Arabic or even on Skype as long as the older one gets some home work. It will be better than sending them to a good university.

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