Hungarian girls
Many guys think Hungarian girls are beautiful. I think before you consider them for marriage think not just about their physical beauty but their personally and the way they see the world. How society influences their thinking. Hungarian girls are pretty but I guess I am not attracted to them because some of them have adopted non-traditional feminist ways of thinking like many western countries. I am a conservative. Dislike me if you like for that, but I prefer girls that cook and take care of the family and try to stay beautiful to feminists who are chasing a career while their kids are in day care. Therefore, for marriage I think Eastern European countries are a better choice if you are searching for a wife, a more traditional wife than Hungarian women, given the current social changes.
Again this is a generalization and not a statement about individuals. Further, maybe you are a guy that does not believe marriage is forever, in this case the new modern thinking European culture is for you and feminist thinking is a positive thing. For me, I prefer a traditional marriage.
I think Budapest girls are also very liberal (unlike their neighbor Slovakia) compared to the girls in the countryside, at least from what I have personally observed. This means that although in theory catholic they are not that traditional, like the same girl living in the villages. They believe in divorce, single parent homes etc. So there are no real great advantages to dating Hungarian girls for love if they hold those views, which are not much different than say a liberal Boston girl. Unless of course, you are attracted to this modernist thinking. Me, I am not.
Why Budapest or Magyar girls might not be for a traditionalist
- Hungary has one of the highest depression rates in the world. The people there are depressed and complain about their own country a lot. I hope this changes as I think they are good people, but communism made them cynical. I hope this changes. I think it there is a statistical correlation between lose of faith and values and depression. It is existential anxiety, think of Camus, or Woody Allen.
- A marriage with a Magyar woman will end in divorce almost 50% of the time compared to other European countries, some that have a 5% rate. It is one of the highest in Europe. Marriage is about love and love is not conditional. But to these brides I guess it is.
- Most Hungarians today are really democratic and open, but socially very liberal. I am liberal when it comes to the freedom, but not in terms of values that are not tempered by faith. Again, disagree with this if you want, but this is just one man’s view of the world.
- If you meet a Magyar girl in the UK she sometimes is not as humble as a Hungarian back home. Hungarian girls in the country are much more humble and much nicer. Huge generalization, but often western culture makes traditional girls more liberal when they move to the big city.
- Many Budapest girls are feminists and not pro life. I think this goes against being a mother, so any lady that thinks this way should not date.
- Magyar girls are hot blooded, in my experience, its the culture not the group of people of course. Some guys like this, and for a short term relationship this might be good but for the long term, not way. Peace and love should govern your relationship not a hot blooded emotional roller coaster.
The above is my personal experience or a statistics I have found. I am sure this is not the the case with all these ladies. I am sure there are many traditional devout peaceful Hungarians women who make wonderful wives. However, my personal experiences have clouded my understanding of them maybe. But even Magyar women living in Slovakian territories turned out to be too liberal for me, because of the post communist Eastern or central European experience generally. However, the key to the social changes have been connected with the young turning away from the faith. The ones that have faith are not like this in Hungary. If you want liberal you can go for peaceful calm laid-back Scandinavians not central Europeans who are a little more hot-blooded (I think it is the weather), unless you like that of course.
Chat with Hungarian girls
Best places to chat with Hungarian girls on the web are as follow:
- www.startlap.hu its a free Hungarian portal of sorts. Hungarian is a very hard language to learn so unless you are in love I would not try to learn this.
- love.hu is a dating site
- If you still want to date or chat with Hungarian girls check out free online dating sites that have Hungarian girls on them, these girls will speak English, in fact they will want to practice their language skills with you.
470 responses to Hungarian girls
Yonatan, the problem of USA is just one party rule, we had it in communism, it led to corruption.
I just can’t imagine if we had one party rule for such a long period as you have it in USA.
Democrats and Republicans are left and right wing of the same party, protecting each others in a corruption that is unseen in the history of humanity. The corruption doesn’t have to be direct, but you have companies that always work for the government, having privileged status.
the taxes are highest in the USA, my brother lives in NY, and he has tax of 5% on the house value, it means if you own a home of 500.000 $ you have to pay 25.000 $ a year. In my country we pay for a house of 500.000 $ tax of 200$ a year.
And also talking about tax on wages, here it’s at least twice less than in USA.
The USA is the most corrupt country in the world, who got the government money to help it’s companies?
The companies that are lobbying, and those companies have always been privileged in many ways.
Sinisa lets talk about taxes. The USA has a 16% self employment tax + lets say a 29% income tax + 7% state tax + 7 % sales tax. So taxes are very high. But there are many deductions also and the USA is a rich country so people can afford it.
I would not say that the whole country and both parties are corrupt. This is too simple a model. I think some people are very honest, but many are special interests.
USA was not always like this.. BUt you are right.. We are headed down the road to socialism. As a matter of fact we are already there. Funny, you mention New York, as if all 50 states have the same bloated tax rate that New York does. More and more people are leaving New York every year because of its insane tax rates. It is much cheaper to live in most parts of country than New York or California. Let’s compare living in Oklahoma City (a city of 2 million people) to that of any European capital. See which city has a better living standard.
Is USA the most corrupt? So easy to point the finger. I don’t agree. IT is corrupt, but there is plenty of corruption to go around. I would say China and Russia are the most corrupt country. Yes, USA and the rest of the world benefit from importing products from an unregulated country like China, where slave labor is the norm.
Is USA really the most corrupt? Its becoming so.. USA is also one of the largest and wealthiest countries in the world. The bailout plan was the work of our communist president, Obama and the Democratic party. Very few Republicans (even those just in name) supported the bail-out (government control of industry). As a matter of fact, Obama also was apart of the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac government loan program that bankrupted our economy and resulted in a crash of our housing market. Obama endorsed the program that gave government loans to families with bad credit and loan income to purchase houses at the taxpayer’s expense. Of course, most of these people ended up going bankrupt and foreclosing, which resulted in our housing meltdown. Is this, what you call capitalism??
Let’s hope the Tea Party wins. I am sick of our one party rule. I do agree with you there. America has been ruled by socialist liberals, calling themselves Republican or Democrat, for far too long.
USA was a capitalist country for a very long. It is becoming socialist and we are starting to suffer the same way Europeans have for a long time. As far as most corrupt?? Once again. I say HAA.. The Russian government is intertwined with the Russian mafia. Berlusconi of Italy is hardly a good example of a leader with a clean record. Chinese government is totally autocratic and enforces mass censorship on the population. I was in Africa.. Um.. lets see.. How about having to pay bribes every 30 miles/45km or so.. It is not uncommon to see government officials and drug dealers at the same party. Chavez of VEnezeula corrupt?? No, of course not.. He didn’t shut down all the radio stations in the country who criticized his government. No, he couldn’t done that.
There is corruption everywhere.. USA is no different. It is just more in the public spotlight.
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Yes I am for the tea party. They really are about fiscal responsibility. They also tend to be socially conservative, which I am.
*that should be LOW INCOME, not loan income, sorry typo
What is weird is that USA is enforcing the affirmative action, we had that in former communist Yugoslavia, which was wrong from the beginning, it could not sort any problem that already existed, and you can never please people who think and behave differently, have other culture, religion or perception of reality.
My family has been in the USA for the last 100 years, some of Dad’s cousans died in wars all across the globe (Dad’s uncle fought and died in WWII against Japanese, (others participated in Korea etc) but today wars just suit the companies that are working for the Army etc.
The amount of money that was given or made from corruption is probably greatest in the USA….
Corruption is very well covered by one party rule,
and it’s not simple as giving cash to the doctor or police officer, it is way more perfected.
The USA is not that corrupt. It is a little but if you look at transparency.org you will see an objective look at corruption in Hungary and the USA.
Admin:
“Look at Ireland it was once the poorest country in Western Europe then one of the richest not it has an economic crisis.”
Then it become again one of the poorest. Atleat in EU. Massive unemployment. It was a bubble.
)). It’s a nonesence and unsustainable.
The deluded promise of economic progress with no actual work done. It’s like the City of London: no production. No output. Only securitazition of mortgages and bloated houseprices which will burst again. Lehman bos could sink in a few minutes like the Titanic. So can any country in the future.
It’s no competition, it’s not free market: it’s called: chaos. It’s not dynamic as you said: it’s over-dynamic, unpredictibly volatile which will steer itself into it’s own demise.
You cannot generate wealth and economic growth out of no work, while other peole working instead of you in China and you borrow money from them to buy their products what you were supposed to be producing
I don’t wanna be a doommonger, but we are doomed,
for the medium term for sure. So we must prepare for a lot of hardship. Double dip recession will be followed by a third a fourth and a fifth one as soon as someone very powerful admits the system is fundamentally rotten.
Chuchill once put in a radio speach soon after the Blitz broke out and RAF mannaged to fight back the first push (I wont be able to quote it precisely)
I must tell to you: it’s not the end. It’s not even the beginning of the end. But perhaps the end of the beginning.
Brilliant reply and deduction Dr. Common Doyle. If you know the book irrational exuberance then you will agree. The question is what will happen? It seems like the private sector with was bailed out by the government sector so it is business as usual for the big players and the little guys? Well if you own assets and are underwater then you lose. But if you do not own large fixed assets but have cash or aspire to have cash that means you win. You can buy a house at fire sale prices in a few years. So a crisis is nothing more than a redistribution of wealth. Unless the government keeps bailing people out and maintaining the status quo at the expense of the tax payers.
The list of great inventors and scientists are almost too long to list.
{edited by Admin because it was a list copied from another site, sorry}
I answer to Admin: i have not spoken that I preffered to live in North Korea not in China no in Romania to the age of the criminal Ceaucescu. but i have only said that there were good example of communist as Janos Kadar in Hungary and Tito in Yugoslavia where people was not so poor as you can imagine….in south Italy many people have not yet running water….in that age i had seen many poor in south Italy than Hungary or Yugoslavia….
About quality life in Germany or France or Scandinavian nations I agree with you… but they are not capitalist systems!! but rather Democratics socialism systems with free health care….where if i have suddenly a bad…one ambulance arrive to help me without ask money….In USA if i don’t pay i can also die. This is barbarian capitalism system.
I know that many religions don’t accept Jrsus and his words when one rich ask him what he must make to go in heaven and Jesus answer “give your richness to poors” and after said “”it’s easier for a camel to pass through a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven” or because in reality for some religions God is the gold.
Can be a democratic system if i have only possibility between two parties both representing interest of capitalism? where don’t exist socialist party,communist party ,fascist party or Christian party.
for BEE i agree with you 100% thank’s for your answer you have understand that many italian’s men are kind because in those moments are thinking to s_x.
Being poor does not make a person go to heaven and being rich does not mean you do not. I think Jesus was trying to make a point that you should not be attached to the things of this world and you should give up everything to serve God. I think Jesus was speaking more metaphorically not literally. However, even if you think it was literal than that means Jesus believed the time of the end was near. He, even though he was the Christ did not know the end of time and he was calling for a radical transformation of heart.
Well, I am not a capitalist by religion so it is not as strong a value as the above. But I think there is no reason to not to be rich. If you are poor in the EU or USA it is because you are either older and can not move from your village, which I understand or you are a victim. That is you are a victim of your own thoughts. You believe the government will help you or the system if unfair. I think anyone can get very rich in the EU or the USA all you need to do is develop your intellectual capital,
Well….i think that after the second important crises of Capitalism after 1929, we risk another age (as after 1929) of “big Dictators” i can hear some people in some nations as Austria Germany Hungary but also in Italy…someone it’s becoming to thik that the fault of this crise is of Jewish and China economical power.. Attention please it is very dangerous this. It needs to be careful. we are risking another racism age and maybe another war also!
However i have observe as in Hungary (as well in north east Italy like Trento Trieste Udine) that many people is nostalgic of the age og the Great emperor…Ferenc Joszef (franz joszef in Austria) in this age life was better and development of these Nation was quick…..after there was one big war and the age of great emperors (Ferenc Joszef and the Kaiser) was destroyed together to the old order of Europe…many people today is nostaligic of these age
Franz Joszef was a great emperor for Austria Hungary and Italy also, after arrival the big capitalism of “wall street style” and destroyed economy of Germany and we know after who arrived.
Paolo, what you said here is rubbish.
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Dicators are not coming from the air. It’s the people who bring them to existence. It is a product of common will, is of their desire. It’s called the Zeitgeist. Have you heard that phrase before? There’s no such thing like there’s a lonely insane bloke who lurking out there to turn the whole world upside down, these things only possible in Hollywood’s fake, nauseating, Disneyland-for-adults world.
Dictators were mainly ordinary human beings not devils with horn. If not Hitler then someone else would’ve come. There are roles in history, which are filled with someone close to that role.
Had you lived in the twenties after the first w war in Berlin with four kids, no jobs, nothing to feed your children with, you would’ve been very likely to be craving for a dictator like H. Many like to think of the twenties/thirties as decades of liberty, fun, flappers and cool jazz music. Only it was the loonatic badies, despite the “holy people’s” direct wish, who embroiled them into wars, violence and bloodbaths. But the fact of the matter is that until the advent of benitos and adolfs life for poor masses was unbearably horrible, they literally had no future at all (unlike the sx pistols in 1975:-))), a constant struggling to survive, putting up with starvation, humiliation and unemployment. That was the dawn of new age Wall-street style capitalism to which so much effort is being made today to rescue by all means by cretin western governments throughout Europe and US (quantitative easing
Given the hardships of these people there isn;t much to blame them for yearning for a firm leader who turns the chaos into order. People inclined to chose security (order) against liberty. At all costs. Even at the cost of a dictator. Easy to be wise today, it’s easy for you, Paolo, to blame them today sitting in front of your 400 euro laptop, in your heated room with your twenty inch LCD tv, perfect stereo, running water, washingmachine, and cheap food from bloody tesco. But life 80 years ago wasn;t exaclty like that. And it’s rubbish, sorry, that there will be another dictator likely to come because people are inherently racist. The WWII did not break out due some sort alleged racism or antisemitism (that’s the way it’s interpreted today by fools and ofcourse by stupid Holywood, but it’s untrue, in fact the ordeal of jews was a sideeffect rather than the objective). It’s a bit childish and brainwashed view of the history and our future. That’s not what history or life teaches people but what Hollywood does. It’s not the books but Bruce Willis is teir first (and last) source where their “knowladge” comes from. Media and people in this new century became pretty much naz_ fetisist in such a way that they see (and find) naz_sm in every corner. Most people’s intellectual need never exceed what Hollywood feeds them therefore become imbecile on historical aspects. There’s far more to the thirties then Hitl_r for example. It’s more subtle. The thirties was not about Hitler alone. Neither the character of Hitler had anything to do with the kind of raging, frenzied, idiot Hollywood regularly portrays him.
One question in the end: what makes you beleive that the era of dictatorhip has not yet come? Just because at the moment you can;t see a man rising in Germany with a little mustache giving blatant speaches? If you expect or worry abiout that to come you have a very poor immagination.
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Interesting comment but I think what prevents dictators from rising again like they did if the collective unconciousness of our civilization would not permit it. Now with such good communication of ideas, largely because of the Internet people would not allow something on that massive scale to happen again. Maybe I am naive, but I do not think it could.
I also question is Hitl_r and Stalin were normal men gone bad, part of me believes this but another part of me believes they were just evil. Evil in the metaphysical sense because so many normal people got dupped into believing them and following them to the end with a crazed fanatical commitment, I think they could have been a manifestation of evil.
Tell my 6,000,000 dead relatives that Hitl_r was not a bad man.. He is the one who orchestrated the mass murder of my people. My grandmother’s entire village in Belarus was exterminated. Women and men were made to dig their own graves and then the na_zis would shoot women holding their babies and bury them, sometimes even being alive.
Of course, HitL_er was not evil. Let us just say, evil is not a bad enough word to describe this filthy, disgusting and vicious piece of human scum. He is pure wickedness and he deserves a firey grave in Gehenna (he_ll) with all the other vicious butchers of the world.
Yonatan, I do know what you are talking about. I know we live in the modern world and everything, but it is hard to explain what happen with just psychology, I think it was something more. That is even why I try to block out the names of that guy. Call me superstitious but I do not want to give their names any power by writing them out fully.
I am aware of what happened. I live in what was the old Jewish ghetto of Krakow. But I do not want to think about it or read books about it, not because I want to ignore that happened. Just the opposite. I think those were tragic and important events. But because thinking about it beyond the point of making others aware of it, is a form of meditating on it and I think like Marcus Aurelius said ‘A man is what he thinks about’. It was evil. And H_tler was an incarnation of this darkness. But what happens to many people is they get drawn into obsessing about it. I think this is a form of the negative energy working on their spirit.
I try to think about peaceful loving things.
I am not a N_zi what have you understood?
I would only remember that after big international crises can arrive these bad men.
I know very well the tragedy of 6 millions of Jewish killed from A.Hitl_r at the same time i remember the 6 millions of North Vietnam people killed from the hands of L. Jonhson and R.Nixon and i hope that these criminal never be allowed to return!
What about all the innocent Vietnamese massacred at the hands of NOrth Vietnamesse? Paolo sorry, but you really disturb me. You are a bloodthirsty communist and I know your kind. You look at one side of history to appease your Boleshevik agenda, but you’re not fooling anyone. My uncle’s wife was Vietnamese, her and her family escaped Vietnam on a boat. The VIetcong were searching for her and would have gunned down her and her family. Oh, such an ethical war. You don’t look at all the massacres and bloodshed communists have done throughout the year.
Actually, the almost-successful genocide of my race was only significant because of the high percentage of Jews who were killed. However, the communist have even outranked the nazis in total number of innocent people massacred and butchered. I am talking women, children. But, this does not end up on your radar screen, because they are your communist friends.
Let me ask you, were Germans trying to escape West Germany or East Germany during the Cold War? Which side would they shoot young people trying to scale the wall and dump their bullet ridden bodies in a ditch? Yes, you and I know..
I hope Boleshevik criminals learn to suffer the grave crimes they committed. The only mistake of Vietnam was not finishing the job. The cowardly Americans left all the South Vietnamese people to suffer torture and death at the hands of ruthless Viet-Cong.
dear Yonatan 6 million of Vietnam people or jewish massacred is a great crime in equal measure, also Stalin is a criminal as Hitler Nixon and Johnson Polpot Mao ….to kill million of people is already a massacre….i am sorry if i have forget the big criminals Stalin PolPot and Mao…sorry i agree with you…
However i have talked well only of JanosKadar and Tito and they were not criminals!
For a Christian as me to kill 6 millions of people Jewish or Vietnam people it’s always a great crime…ah sorry i forget you are not Christian but Jewish , it’s possible that for you is different. I believe in Jesus and his words you not, also if many Christian people centuries ago made crime also….nobody of us it’s clean before God and please don’t say “the only mistake of Vietnam was not finish the job” it seems the same phrases of one old N_zist about Jewish people. These words are terrible.
Thanks for evading my question and leave my JEwishness out of this. People calling themselves Christians mass murdered plenty of Jews; please read a history book.
You know very little about the Vietnam War from how you talk. FIrst, the VIetnam War was a civil war between the North and the South Vietnamese. The Communist North Vietnamese were butchering and terrorizing the Southern Vietnamese people. Ho Chi MInh was on a mission to do the same to Vietnam as Mao Zedong did to China. He wanted to eliminated all personal freedoms, including Christianity, as well force all people to swear loyalty to him and his communist regime or face certain death. Yes, Ho Chi Minh would kill women and children, entire families, anyone he thought went against him.
Contrary, to your bogus claims, the North Vietnamese had an organized and powerful army which was funded by the Soviets and Chinese governments. They had tanks, missles, and heavy artillery. And, in case you don’t know the Vietnamese killed more of their own people in the War, then the Americans killed. You forget that the South Vietnamese army was fighting the North and was backed up by the Americans. Just as the North Vietnamese was being backed up by the Communists. However, the South Vietnamese were weak compared to the war machine that was mobilizing in the North. They required the AMericans to keep them from being devastated.
Why do you call Pol Pot a murderer, but somehow classify Ho Chi Minh as a hero? They had the same agenda and performed the same tactics.
You call yourself a Christian? Well, your North Vietnamese heroes would have shot you dead for that. You seem a bit hypocritical to me. You forget that those “evil” Americans as you call them were fighting to keep Vietnamese from losing their religious freedoms, that you hold so dear.
My father is a Vietnam Veteran. He saved the lives of many Vietnamese people, including children, who were shot by Viet-Cong. Are you calling my Father a murderer? He saved the lives of Vietnamese people. He was on a hospital ship. There were many Vietnamese people on his ship. The Vietnamese in the South were horrified when
When the Viet-Cong came into Saigon they deliberately killed women and children, anyone who got in their way. Of course, a person like you could only hold the American’s responsible for immoral acts. If Americans just went to Vietname to kill Vietnamese, how come the North Vietnamese massacred so many of the South Vietnamese? Answer that question or I think this debate is over. How come North VIetnamese went into SOuth VIetnamese cities killing massive numbers of Vietnamese people.
You are ignorant about this, so please be quiet about issues you know little about.
BTW. My uncle’s wife’s family would like to have a word with you. I bet if you told them how great Ho Chi Minh was, one of them may strangle you. Many of them watched their families get butchered by the communists. They escaped Vietnam on a small boat.
If you love communism so much Paolo, why don’t you stop complaining and move to Belarus, Cuba or North Korea. These are places that still have full blown communism. Everyone is equal, nobody is rich (except the leaders, of course).
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A nice article on Vietnamese communist imperialism .. And some of the atrocities hidden from the worldview by liberal media.
Add the http to this
radiofreewisconsin.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/ho-chi-minh-the-imperialist/
I want to excuse me with Yonatan if i have used hard words….here i was accused to be N_zist in first time from someone and Communist from Yonatan…
I am socialist, i like European culture and i don’t like American politic, however i liked some presidents as Roosevelt, Kennedy, Clinton and Obama. Yonatan i was Auschwitz in August and the first thing that i have thought was to ___ every German but it’s terrible because if 100000 German were responsible of these horrors it’s terrible to ____ everybody. At the same time if 100000 viet cong were ___….it’s terrible to kill 6 million women and child innocent…..
Hi all. I am Hungarian man y.o. and I have read all your writing and controversies.
I have lived the age of Janos Kadar, I agree partly with Paolo, for us that was not a bad age. Everyone had house and one job and there food for all the people you can go also to dance to drink something to practice sport to spend holiday in Balaton lake, there wasn’t crime. nobody risked to lose his job no unemployment.
However we could not travel in west Europe it was forbidden there were many Russian soldiers hated from us, and many policemen in the street also if they checked also and don’t k_ll everyone we loved in a protective dome. Today I can travel in foreigner cities in west Europe.
there was the good and bad in that age, today many Hungarian think that in that age life was better than today.
I have forgotten one important thing:
Cold war was the most stupid thing created from the idiot politic men.
Much money wasted for nothing,never one only gunshot between USSR and USA bu too much men killed in Asiatic world.
Thank you for this USSR and USA
Hey admin, I found your post very realistic and insightful. I somehow find Hungarian girls the most beautiful girls in the world. But so far I have never considered their personalities. Thanks for clearing this up.
How often we confuse beauty with virtue. I know many guys who think Hungarian girls are out of this world attractive. Maybe they are, but if your looking for a long term mate, also consider the girls view on marriage. Maybe many Hungarian girls dream of spending their life with only their true love. But many (not all) are becoming like some American girls, that is career first, than think about marriage.
@anon
all I can say is: dont get fooled and misinformed by this article. If you like a Hungarian girl, just go ahead and give her a chance.
Trust me, you wont regret it;)
Have a nice day!
That’s very interesting. I’m an 18 years old Hungarian girl and I’ve never read an article about OUR (my female compatriots’ and my) personality before. Fascinating -I guess- and true. I don’t pity it that it’s true and I think that is “the way I see the world”.
You know Maria, Hungarian girls because of their beauty have so much potential to be real fairy-tale princesses. But why do women think that the only way is the post modern cosmopolitan way? And anything else is uncool. If a woman wants to attract a prince she should simple have some ideals about love and marriage that believe in love with no limits.
You can’t force anyone to fall in love. Love is an off-hand thing – you can’t say it “I’m in love, because I want to”. That’s so not how it works. Of course I believe in life-long marriage, but I have to admit, it don’t works all the time. And you can say, it’s the women’s fault; maybe you’re right. Maybe we’re hot blooded and can’t make a compromise. But maybe you just expect too much from the Hungarian girls (because of the beauty?). I do not think we’re so different than the ordinary run of the females worldwide.
Hello,
I have lived in Italy and I couldn’t imagine my life living in a family like that. I would have divorced if all my life would my family because I need self-actualization.
So you have right, but it does not mean that I can’t love. This is Hungarian power…
Dorothy from Hungary:)
Are you saying you would not want to be with your family because you need self actualization? I do not understand? I am with my family all the time, we just do things together. What is self actualization to you?
In Italy self-actualization means beaking delicious lasagne. (I generalize like you
I like cooking but for me this is scant…
Italy is so beautiful, I wish I was there right now.
Hi!
It is a nice article but there are very big diferences between Budapest and other cities. Other cities are very small, much smaller then Bp. I can see that in Pecs (where I live) you can easily find a a girl for marrige of course not in their 20-25 ages. Here are many many students couse this is a university city. I think (maybe stupid) that the most of good students who learns a lot all the time (she can go to party ofc. but not every day of the week)so she isn’t a big party girl can be tradicional and not so liberal then the party chicks. And dont forget in Hungary live many gipsies and they are much more hot-blood than white people!
I think Hungarian girls are like a child, but in their 30th ages they become very thoughtful, and comitted to marrige or not marrige but living together. I talking about other cities not Bp. In Bp. people are very diferent. This is my experience. I hope you will read this! Thank You.
Dear Admin! I’m a Hungarian girl and I am proud that I’m Hungarian.I do not know where you got your experiece about of hungarian girl! You got a wrong one Man!!! I can tell to you,what about hungarian people: We are the most favorites girl here in the world
We are all nice and friendly and helpfull people! Maybe you got experience with mixed hungarian girl..most roman and ukranien girl like that,what you are talk about! How you can judge us please? We are all respectfull and honestly people! Yes we are all got bad past,but we are strong and never no lose our faith for our country! I hope..you one day will meet with a real hungarian people..and you will feel sorry about this topic !
Klara, I will reconsider this as people are giving me good feedback about Hungary. I just think there is nothing wrong with Hungarians, but rather the culture is a bit western feminist to me. If you say that this is not true let me know.
Hi Dear Admin!
I can tell you,its not true
How to say,first please you can explain to me..what you mean about feminist ?
These times here around the world,we need to work hard everyday for good life. Before that was normal..husband working and wife at home and cooking and take care of child,so become a good houseworker:)
Already this is impossible!
We need to work as a man.If we wanna good life for our child..we need to work and not just the man!
This that feminist things what you are talk about ?
Sorry for my english,its not my native languange..!
I have not problem with women working if they way to. However, if you have a little baby at home, don’t you think it is better to stay with the baby as that baby needs its mama until it goes to school. The first 5 years in life are the most important for the brain to develop as well as other things. I have no problem sacrificing material comfort for time with a child. Where I life many people do. They do not go back to work after 6 months, but stay at home until the children are grown or at least in school.
You can make money at home, you can do other economic activities.
What is poor today was rich even 30 years ago under communism so wealth is relative.
The most important job in the world is raising a happy child.
klara26
Yes, we do forgive your “not native” English but can’t you just slightly improve it first then write? It’s almost impossible to decipher what you were writing about.
Hello there Admin,
And I liked the article about Hungarian girls..
I loved the article about Romanian girls..You know us very well
I am not saying that all Romanian girls have a perfect character,but most of them are good wifes
I had an American boyfriend and we liked each other very much,but he went to study in Hungary.. there he found other girls,clubs,fun.. so he left me for a Hungarian girl..they were spending all their nights in the clubs..I couldn`t do that because I was studying and secondly I am not the type to go every night in the club and come back home at 5 in the morning..after few months she left him for an Italian,because the Italian guy have promised her that they will go to Italy and other stuff like that and this American wanted to came back to me,but I don`t want anymore..because I loved him and we had a nice relationship..You have to value what you have at the right time..
now he is single..We talk sometimes but nothing else..I have a relationship with somebody else..
So,yes Hungarian girls,most of them prefer to be with somebody who take them in America,Italy anywhere but Hungary..
Sorry if I offend somebody but ..
I think highly of Romanian girls. They keep their values over money and stay beautiful. Hungarian girls are different. Many are nice, those who come from the countryside, but many have departed with Hungarian values based on faith, and now are a little big feminist and materialistic. I am not saying that is bad, but me as a man, I prefer a girl who is not a feminist. I am an American. I am not a chauvinist at all. I am a romantic and believe in love and faith. I want a girl who believes in love and not money. Who has faith in God and not in feminism. It is a cultural thing. Right now there is a cultural divide in Europe in Europe between East and West and North and South. Hungarian girls are being swayed (not all) North and West, but I prefer East and South, that is romanticism over materialism.
Hungarian girls are every beautiful but so are many countries females, but unfortunately a “Shine Eye girl is a trouble to a man” and to be honest that is probably the truth all around this world. I completely disagree that there is a fundamental difference between inherent female behaviours from different countries I think mentality changes dependant on where you are. Consequently, this has an affect on your everyday personality and moulds the individual to become what you see in front of you.
Hungarian girls are nice. Hungarian people are nice people. However, I Think Russians and Romanians do make better wives.
Feminists are Femnasi. These girls are responsible for destroying Western society.
Western women have priced themselves out the market.
Funny article, but that’s all. Ali El-Beiruti: we all know how your culture treats women, how they get finished if their husband wants a younger one. Maybe I am a Feminasi, but I would never allow that in my culture.
DedyRomanian: it might hurt you that you have been left for a better or just simply an other one, but it is miserable to blame all Hungarian girls for your misfortune.Maybe you should loose weight or remove your mustache or whatever. What did you wanted from that American guy? You Romanians want to leave that country more than Hungarians do. You are funny guys.
And for the ones, who blame the previous commenter for the bad English: my English is not better, not native, but i see your grammatical mistakes in your comments, even you make mistakes in spelling and grammar dear admin.
happy holidays for you all.
Your English is fine. I think Hungarians are pretty good with English as their languages is so hard.
I like this avatar.
I love avatars, I do not know why more people do not personalize them but even so, often the generated ones come out interesting and sometimes fitting to the personality.
Mark, if I had to guess then people probably aren’t customizing their avatars because they don’t know they can or how to do it. I would recommend making that feature more user friendly as I am searching for it and can’t find the way to customize mine.
en.gravatar.com/ it is a universal web gravatar, so when you sign up it applies all over the web. I thought of making the site more user interactive like chat features and message features, therefore, you could even chat with girls who post here, but I have to think about all that.
Mark,
That sounds like a great idea. I really enjoy this website and making it more interactive would be even more interesting! Hope you are enjoying your holidays!
I was in the countryside, it was a lot of fun. I ate way too much. I live in an Eastern European city but thinking of moving to the countryside as I am more of an outdoor person.
I think Hungarian girls love life and theay want to enjoy it, they want to try all the tings what can reach but then they become serious in their middle ages they become good wifes. They will be faithful. When a Im whatching in TV the talk show I can always see that the girl is faithful and the guys cheating but of course a talk show dont reflect the whole country
but I have experience from life too. The most of them brake up te relationship if they want another guy, but this is specific in young ages 20-25-30. But at all I can agree with that east europe is more romantic.
Living in an Eastern European countryside sounds like a magical fantasy. I would love to live in the countrside in a cottage where life is less materialistic and commercialized. I’m sure it shall be a challenge but I will be rewarded with great health and inner peace. I will also live longer and spend lots more time being in love than working long hours, I am sure!
Mark, do you have any resolutions for the New Year?
Also, I wanted to request you to do more articles on how girls can become better girlfriends and wives. I am really curious to know what men truly want in a woman.
Thanks!
Roxanne, your ideas are great. This will be an interesting article. I have to write it. I have a few articles to write that might not interest you on Indian girls etc, but the idea on how to be a better girlfriend or wife is a good idea. I can work on this for sure.
Well I have to be honest 2010 was a challenging year. But as 2011 approaches, I think have some intentions. But they are still crystallizing so I do not know how they will turn out. I think it is a very good time to use one’s imagination and put one’s life in God’s hands to prepare for the next year. And you, anything specific?
Houses in the Countryside are really nice in Eastern Europe. I would prefer a wooden house than a traditional brick house or even frame style house. Wood used in the right way, makes homes very cozy and light. For many month you need to hibernate and a wooden house like they use to build in Vermont with a cast iron wood stove in the Eastern European countryside near a forest is a nice thing.
The best is if you have one of those house, you are still close to civilization. In Europe I can drive to Italy and a dozen other countries in about a day. That is what makes it really cool. And with high speed Internet these days, even if you are in a little house in the forest you can skype people all around the world.
Hello there!
I’m a Hungarian girl and I think you should separate the girl types: the party types and those who are not. There are many girls who love to party and they have those traits which you mention above BUT there are lot of girls who are not.Me and my friends are like the opposite, hardworking, caring for our bf’s and aiming for a long relationship. Most of the time my friends are the dumped ones. We are loyal.For example I have the same bf since 2004 (I was 14 at that time). If a Hungarian girl loves you she will love you with all of her heart, and forgive you many times.
And yes we work, not because we really want to do so many big things in our work, but because we must make a living (except if the guy is rich enough…), and thinking of it I would go crazy not being able to do any work and just stay home with the child. Yeah be with your child, but kindergarden won’t hurt, they can socialize there, and that’s important.
And I’m not religious, but I’m feminist, and still romantic.
That’s all
Greetings from Budapest!
Hello
I’m a Hungarian girl and nowadays I work in France, Italy and Germany, and of course i meet a lot of girls, but all i can say is at home, in Hungary, girl are much more attractive than the other countries. So, you’re right, we are so beautiful at all.
BUT.. you’re right, about feminism too. Because of the financial problems, women have to work a lot, and that’s why they think:” Hey, I work, take care of children and do the housework, but my husband just work. SO who am I?” I think that thinking is causes the divorces.
So, not because of the feminism, you shouldn’t search the right wife in Hungary. The main point is the financial problems, poor people, it isn’t enough mney etc. That causes everything
so Hungarian women, Face the change!
Hello! I am Hungarian girl. I do not undestand your openion about divorce. If the marriage doesn’t work why you have to keep it for life-long??? This is so old-fashioned view. If your marriage unhappy, you still refuse divorce just to keep The Society happy??
So those women are (so bad and) feminist because they cause divorce? and those women who are not brave enough to stand for their happiness are good to get married?
Why do some many Hungarian girls argue this point instead of arguing for love. If you take the position a priori that it it does not work you you can split, this is not marriage, but high school dating.
I recommend no guy marry a girl, not matter how tempting she is or how many languages she speaks who has this attitude. Give me a nice sweet country girl who has no problem with making her man happy over some liberated woman who wants to prove something. I highly recommend guys find a loyal woman or not get married at all.
Me I will stay with my wife all the days our lives. What is wrong with that?
Sorry, but you didn’t understand my comment. I do not think I wrote something about not to stay with your wife life-long. I wrote about take a courage and divorce if you are unhappy.
My father terrorised my mum on many ways, that probably you cannot immagine. She never divorced! They are still together. But I think I was a happier child if I have a chance to live in peace just with my mum. But I had to live in fear, and it has disadvantages to my adult life as well. Only because people was thinking stay together whatever happens. That is the only good way. Thank God time is changing. If you still don’t understand this, maybe you need to born again in a family as mine and get this experience. Sometimes only life can teach you “do not judge”.
Yeah, and I am a country girl.
I understood your comment. I am sorry you went though what you did, but you do not see how you are affected by all this. You went though an extreme situation.
You might be attractive but your attitude towards the situation has made you a bit bitter. That works well for self defense but I stand firm in saying I do not recommend guys marrying girls who believe in divorce. I mean for you, you need to heal. But how could I in good conscious recommend any poor guy to marry a girl who is so ready to walk?
Anna, I once heard that marriage goes through 3 fundamental stages. The first is the romantic stage in which both partners are in love and overlook the other partner’s flaws. The second is the realistic stage in which the other partner’s flaws come out more and you begin to have more arguments on top of the stress of raising happy children. This stage usually lasts for years and is the hard part of marriage. Once that stage is over, then it moves to the secure stage. At that point you have gotten through each others differences and the good news is the romance comes back.
I think that what Mark was talking about is that feminists fail to address that second stage and think that a marriage is supposed to have lasting romance. That kind of thinking is wrong! They corrupt the minds of women thinking they can “have it all” and as soon as the realistic stage of the marriage comes out then they claim “unhappiness.” The problem with this is no matter how hard the husband tries to appease the wife’s selfish desires, it will never be enough so she will treat the marriage as something disposable rather than something that is sacred. Statistically, 85% of divorces in my country are filed by women. I wonder what portion of those women gave up on the marriage in the realistic stage.
Anna, your case is different and very extreme. What your father did was wrong! If your mother is still with him after all of that, then she is very strong. I don’t know why she stuck around but if she was abused to the extreme that you suggest, then I would say that warrants a good reason for divorce.
Every case is different in its own special way…
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But how can you judge a relationship from the outside?
what is written in the Bible about to judge and being judged?
I personally accept your points guys, but I also accept the points of the woman that you call “feminists” just because they have the courage to change. Change is hard, and the life of a divorced woman (especialy the ones with children) is hard. My father was alcoholic, the final reason when my mother left him arrived when I was 1 year old, and my father has gone and drunk in the pub from the money that my mother gave him to buy medicines for me. So maybe it was the realistic part of their marriage. And my mother couldn’t accept it. Would you dare to say she was some bad feminist????? There are many reasons that you can’t see from outside. My mother had a hard life after that. she worked hard, and had no boyfriends and social life, party. only her child after divorce. She was not selfish-feminist, but she was a saint in my eyes. She gave up her own life for me, her child.
How do you dare to judge us? And one more info: in Hungary not only the divorce rate, but the number of alcoholists is high too. So many families have to face this problem, so many children have to grow up like the previous commenter.
Anyway: I still think that Hungarian girls got this article, because you Admin are at the side of romanians and slovakians or other nations who dislike us,because we HAVE history
Or am I wrong? do you have any friends from Hungary?
And one more point: you keep using the “feminist” cathegory for something that has nothing to do with feminist movement or ideology. Divorce was in “use” at the time of VIII. Henry, the king of England, and the protestants.Feminism was a 20 th.century ideology. But yes, of course we woman want the rights, what any human has. we want equal money for equal job. hat’s wrong with that. ohh… I know. it is not comfortable for selfish guys like some commenters here. Well, we Hungarian girls can’t do anything with that. Our life is hard, but ok, our guys are handsome we don’t have to marry western guys and play love for a hope of a better life. I feel sorry for those “country” girls who have to. i suggest you western guys to come here, we don’t judge you (yes, that’s what you misunderstood and called “liberal” many comments ago)Yes, we don’t judge you, we accept you, but don’t marry you for your money or for your visa if you are not good enough for us, and if you don’t treat us like human beings.
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where is my avatar? this one is toooooo modest for me!! I was Kata! hey!
Go to gravatar.com it is like one of the biggest sites on the web. It will automatically connect you here. You can create your image based on your real image (I am sure many people are curious as I think you have a few fans) or a fictitious character like and an ill clad lithe elf girl running through the forest or whatever you think fits your persona.
Uh Kata, for your information my father is a good man and not even close to an alcoholic. Sorry to hear that your father sucked but kindly keep your ignorance to yourself about me. Kata, you seem awfully confused about what we men are talking about here. Allow me to educate you on what we call a feminist. You see, when I first started researching the idea of feminism and it’s link to divorces, I didn’t know there was a difference between feminist and feminazi. So when men talk about feminist’s and our hatred of them and what they’ve done to families, we are talking about the feminazi’s. We still call them feminists because they are the ones who represent MODERN day feminism. The feminism that you are talking about that existed in the early 20th century only exists in minorities today. Because of that, we men can’t see the feminism of what it was supposed to be back then because it is ruled today by the corrupted feminazi’s who write feminist doctrine, policy, and promote hatred of men. Here are some examples of quotes from leading modern day feminists:
“We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men…”
Elizabeth Cady Stanton
“Under patriarchy, every woman’s son is her betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman.”
Andrea Dworkin
“I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it.”
Former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan
“To be male is to be a kind of idiot savant”
Germaine Greer
“I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.”
Robin Morgan
These are the women that represent feminists? No thanks, I want nothing to do with feminism. Kata, are you beginning to see the big picture now? The feminist movement changed everything and now relationships and marriages are worse than ever. Remember, I’m not talking about women’s rights when I talk about the feminist movement. I’m talking about the destruction of the family unit that was caused by this movement. There is a difference.
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Guyver
at first I’m sorry if you misunderstood my previous comment, I was talking about Anna’s father and my father, my comment had nothing to do with your father of course, I never wanted to hurt your family or feelings or you personally.
And I ask you to give the honor of my dead father, and don’t use words like “sucked” for him. Thx.
About my education: why do you think that you are a person to educate me? do you know anything about me? you only know that I am a Hungarian, and I am a girl.
You say ” Kata, you seem awfully confused about what we men are talking about here” haha
) sooorrry I can’t understand, you know, I’m JUST A GIRL. 
you don’t consider me/us equal, it comes through your comments. How you use the words etc.
Women are not responsible for the crisis of families, this world, this lifestyle, the globalization is responsible for that. The WWI-II. forced us to work hard,and of course we wanted equal rights, because we are human beings!I didn’t read all that you “”-to me(don’t know the word, sorry
), because it was the opinion of some woman in the movement, but not the movement itself, and not the movement as we know it now, and not the meaning how you use the terminology. It is not relevant now.
Sometimes I think you guys want to marry a country girl, or an Eastern European not because of her values, but because you want to have the pover above her, and you want to feel respected by her. I don’t think that you are successful with girls around you, and it is not only their fault, it comes from your weaknesses. For excample the Admin writes some article how girls should look like, how girls should behave to be good enough for you. But what about you guys? how do you look like? how do you treat girls around you? do you have enough money? good job?nice personality? I think something is missing from many guys writing here. Of course I don’t know you guys personally, but I have this feeling from the beginning, and you didn’t convince me. I wouldn’t marry any of you, because you wouldn’t respect me. I was reading many comments here since september, but the way you are talking to me is not really polite. But as you know I don’t really mind it, and it is the first time I am talking about my feelings about this. A woman is a PERSON and not a thing, or a nice furniture in your house. A person with feelings. But many western guys are coming to Eastern Europe, China, Russia to BUY wifes, and thinking that they are some prince on a white horse for us. And many girls are selling themselves, hoping a better life in America or other western countries.But this is not love, this is a business. it is like buying slaves.Even if you don’t pay money for the marriage itself, the reasons are material reasons on the woman’s side.You want marriage and love (?) They want a better life.It is a business. I can understand the reasons, but I can’t accept this. In Hungary maybe we have a better life than in Romania or Russia or China, not as good as in America and in Western Europe, but we can work and have some money, food, clothes etc. So this business-marriage is not for us. We are not for sale. And we ask you when you come here who YOU are? How are you talking to us? Why do you want to find a girlfriend here and not in your country?We have many questions. It has nothing to do with feminism or as you funny guys call “feminazis”
Maybe you should read Robert Merle’s book Protected Men or something like that. It is funny, but sometimes a little bit sexual, and shows the difference between feminists and feminists.
Anyway I am pretty sure that you would forget any stupid ideas in your head about the misadvantages of marriage with “evil feminazis” (or simply just forget everything) if one day you would see me or some of my hungarian girlfriends in real life. We look good
But we are smart 
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Kata, I’m sorry about my previous comment. I thought you were talking about me so I felt personally insulted and that will make me want to lash out at the person who did it.
“And I ask you to give the honor of my dead father, and don’t use words like “sucked” for him. Thx.” You have it, I’m sorry I used that word.
“About my education: why do you think that you are a person to educate me?” I actually meant that in a positive way. I was trying to get you to understand more clearly about how us men make a distinction between the words feminist and feminazi and how we view them.
“you don’t consider me/us equal, it comes through your comments. How you use the words etc.” That isn’t true, I hold a lot of respect for women in general. Again, I was feeling insulted so I actually considered you as an enemy when I was writing that stuff.
The comments that I quoted to you were from different women who held or still hold leadership roles in large feminist groups and politics. Therefore, the opinions coming from these women is very relevant so I have to disagree with you, Kata. They are the ones who promote hatred of men with their words and actions.
“I don’t think that you are successful with girls around you, and it is not only their fault, it comes from your weaknesses.” We all have our flaws.
“how do you look like?” An average Joe. “how do you treat girls around you?” With patience and respect until I am given a reason not to. “do you have enough money?” Kata, that isn’t a fair question. My advise to you is do not ask that question to any man after you meet him otherwise he will feel like you are trying to take advantage of him. “good job?” I’m working on it. “nice personality?” I guess I am working on that too.
“But many western guys are coming to Eastern Europe, China, Russia to BUY wifes, and thinking that they are some prince on a white horse for us.” Okay, that actually made me laugh, I have never met any of these men personally that want to “buy” a wife. I prefer to go there to learn, travel, and meet the people.
I have never heard of that book but maybe I will check it out
. Kata, you do seem very intelligent. I’m glad we were able to clear up that misunderstanding.
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Wow. This thread was supposed to be about Hungarian girls and turned into a free-for-all about history, social mores, religion and economics.
Let me set a few things straight. I am married to a Hungarian woman, who is a native of Romania. Yes, you read that right. Hungary once was a huge empire and you’ll still find many ethnic Hungarians in their former vassal states and lost territories like Serbia, Slovakia, Ukraine and especially Romania. I have a good grasp on Hungarian women, and Eastern European women in general. I studied and lived in Western Europe as well, so I feel I have some perspective on the differences between Eastern and Western Europe.
But, to the point, you’ll find Hungarian women are very similar to women anywhere in the world in that they usually want a family composed of a responsible husband who can draw in a decent income and of course, children. I don’t care what you saw on a youtube video or about any “love parade”. Anyone who would form any opinion on anything they saw on youtube has got to be an idiot and shouldn’t be allowed to reproduce.
It is true that Hungarians can be open about sexuality and are tolerant of things like prostitution, it should also be noted that they are not warm towards homosexuality. The Hungarians are a unique race in that they have a unique language and their perspectives on things don’t always jibe with what we think they should. They do relate very well to the Polish, and it should be noted that they have a long history of supporting each other politically. However, they don’t share the Polish enthusiasm for the Catholic church. Note that the Reformed and Lutheran churches are quite prominent in Hungary and the Hungarians I have met from those denominations are quite religious and conservative.
As to some of the comments made about Hugarians early in this thread, I need to set the record straight.
First off, to the comment that 50% of all marriages end up in divorce. Wow, that’s a lower divorce rate than most of the Western world. To the comment that the rate of depression is high in Hungary, I have to ask, “what nation is consuming so much of the anti-depressant drugs in the world?” One odd aspect of the Hungarian character is that they tend to be on and off in their moods. This should not be perceived as mental illness. Its just the way they are and the reason I wonder if my wife was abducted by a UFO and brainwashed over night. By the way, Hungarians have a great interest in UFOs, and some like to think they are somehow related to extra-terrestrials because they can’t be linked to other ethnic groups in the world.
In short, Hungarians have a disposition that might be challenging to some people, but I know plenty of women in the Western world that would drive me nuts after being the room with them for five minutes. That said, I am glad I picked the woman I married to be the mother of my child. Our marriage isn’t perfect, she still likes to drive around, spend money and shop too much, and she gets in a bad mood once a month. You will have that same problem with any woman from any place in the world. If you are thinking that you can find the perfect woman in some specific location, who will not pose any challenges for you, then it is obvious why you cannot find one in your own city.
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Thank you for a very balanced and positive reply. I think you will have a happy family. It is interesting about UFOs I did not know that.
Sigh, I’m deeply hurt by lot of comments as a Hungarian girl. I agree with Kata, that not the women are the cause of every bad. I know a girl, she was beaten up by his bf, she didn’t dare to leave him, and other friend of mine was sexually abused, please understand why they leave them, why would other ppl get divorced. And it’s not that extreme as you think, yeah it’s not normal but it’s not rare sadly. Both of my grandparents divorced, their marriage turned into a nightmare after 20 years. But my parents lead a balanced life. I will say this: if you think we are that bad then don’t come here to find a hungarian girl to be your wife. Me and my friends will stick to our Hungarian bfs/husbands who understands us and treat us as an important treasure. I don’t get all these bad comments
There’s still hope.
Even on youtube I see this: good hungarian wife does not exist, they just make good porn. I’m fed up with these comments… the judgements without even knowing us personally and just judging those who appeare on tv or lead an extrem life. Every women is the same on this planet :/
By the way here feminism still means that if I have the same job as a man then I should also get the same salary, sorry we are still behind Western-Europe so we don’t have time to think about those stupid ideas which other feminists say somewhere in the world. We don’t want overrule the guys, we just want a peaceful life with our man and have children and grandchildren.
Sorry if I sounded pissed (yes I am right now) I don’t want to offend anybody.
Paul I was happy to read your respond
And I don’t get it, love is the most important thing, then who cares about the nation?! I saw really rarely the word, love, though marriage should be based on it.
I will remain an idioticly naiv and romantic girl.
Best wishes.
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