Hungarian girls
Many guys think Hungarian girls are beautiful. I think before you consider them for marriage think not just about their physical beauty but their personally and the way they see the world. How society influences their thinking. Hungarian girls are pretty but I guess I am not attracted to them because some of them have adopted non-traditional feminist ways of thinking like many western countries. I am a conservative. Dislike me if you like for that, but I prefer girls that cook and take care of the family and try to stay beautiful to feminists who are chasing a career while their kids are in day care. Therefore, for marriage I think Eastern European countries are a better choice if you are searching for a wife, a more traditional wife than Hungarian women, given the current social changes.
Again this is a generalization and not a statement about individuals. Further, maybe you are a guy that does not believe marriage is forever, in this case the new modern thinking European culture is for you and feminist thinking is a positive thing. For me, I prefer a traditional marriage.
I think Budapest girls are also very liberal (unlike their neighbor Slovakia) compared to the girls in the countryside, at least from what I have personally observed. This means that although in theory catholic they are not that traditional, like the same girl living in the villages. They believe in divorce, single parent homes etc. So there are no real great advantages to dating Hungarian girls for love if they hold those views, which are not much different than say a liberal Boston girl. Unless of course, you are attracted to this modernist thinking. Me, I am not.
Why Budapest or Magyar girls might not be for a traditionalist
- Hungary has one of the highest depression rates in the world. The people there are depressed and complain about their own country a lot. I hope this changes as I think they are good people, but communism made them cynical. I hope this changes. I think it there is a statistical correlation between lose of faith and values and depression. It is existential anxiety, think of Camus, or Woody Allen.
- A marriage with a Magyar woman will end in divorce almost 50% of the time compared to other European countries, some that have a 5% rate. It is one of the highest in Europe. Marriage is about love and love is not conditional. But to these brides I guess it is.
- Most Hungarians today are really democratic and open, but socially very liberal. I am liberal when it comes to the freedom, but not in terms of values that are not tempered by faith. Again, disagree with this if you want, but this is just one man’s view of the world.
- If you meet a Magyar girl in the UK she sometimes is not as humble as a Hungarian back home. Hungarian girls in the country are much more humble and much nicer. Huge generalization, but often western culture makes traditional girls more liberal when they move to the big city.
- Many Budapest girls are feminists and not pro life. I think this goes against being a mother, so any lady that thinks this way should not date.
- Magyar girls are hot blooded, in my experience, its the culture not the group of people of course. Some guys like this, and for a short term relationship this might be good but for the long term, not way. Peace and love should govern your relationship not a hot blooded emotional roller coaster.
The above is my personal experience or a statistics I have found. I am sure this is not the the case with all these ladies. I am sure there are many traditional devout peaceful Hungarians women who make wonderful wives. However, my personal experiences have clouded my understanding of them maybe. But even Magyar women living in Slovakian territories turned out to be too liberal for me, because of the post communist Eastern or central European experience generally. However, the key to the social changes have been connected with the young turning away from the faith. The ones that have faith are not like this in Hungary. If you want liberal you can go for peaceful calm laid-back Scandinavians not central Europeans who are a little more hot-blooded (I think it is the weather), unless you like that of course.
Chat with Hungarian girls
Best places to chat with Hungarian girls on the web are as follow:
- www.startlap.hu its a free Hungarian portal of sorts. Hungarian is a very hard language to learn so unless you are in love I would not try to learn this.
- love.hu is a dating site
- If you still want to date or chat with Hungarian girls check out free online dating sites that have Hungarian girls on them, these girls will speak English, in fact they will want to practice their language skills with you.
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458 responses to Hungarian girls
“The problem is when you have a girl with low confidence..”
Good point. That’s the risk. It could eventuate in a more equal relationship or one where the bird flies the nest…
The flight factor is higher with girls who do not have an internal sense of morality, but is rather influenced by the trends around them. This is why some guys when they bring Eastern European guys home the the States, they change and become American and leave. On the other hand there are many people, like the Amish or Jewish communities that retain their values despite the world around them. Girls can also have their own moral compass even if brought to America, this is why if you are looking for a wife in Hungary or any other more traditional old world country you need to understand where this girl is coming from in terms of values. Does she subscribe to conditional ethics or ideals?
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Hello there! Ive been reading this post , and found it very interesting, specially, cause im a hungarian woman, but living abroad for a while now.
I have been living in many different cultures since now,and i have to say I kind of understand where the author comes from,yes, the girls in hungary are like that, we r like that..to enjoy everything, but we do it with a lack of confidence, with many many problems behind our back, what we have to overcome those stuff ladies, so whatever we enjoy or not wont became a disaster..so that way we could stay respected peaceful beautiful human beings for each other, not just party animals, we do have to change, and to enjoy the life in a different prospective…
I wont agree many things with the author in this post, cause he sees something in which hes right, but he doesn’t really wants to understand it and he judges .
I just came back from home, and sorry to tell, but we ladies r getting far from the class, we use to belong, we have to overcame our fears from the past, and live in the present with a little bit of grace and courage in ourself, and things will be way more easier in the end…
About having fun:
A Hungarian, Russian. Brazilian..any ladies in the world and every man in the world is made to have fun each other., common this is life,in my opinion u dont love only one in your life.. its the case how you do it..
Klara
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Klara I have to go back to the Hungarian girls post and clean it up. Perhaps it was my worst post, in that maybe I was unfair, I do not mean to judge. However, I am not backing down on the fact the the Hungarian girls I have meet are much more Western like Czech girls than Polish or Ukrainian girls or even like Italian or Romanian or Greek girls who are religious and traditional. I think Hungarians are very good people, just the culture is more closer at this juncture to American western values than the values I would want to marry.
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We don’t live in the stone-age. You have a very old fashioned view on life and I think you need to grow out of this mind set real quick. There are many conservative men and women and just as many liberal in this world. People should be free to peruse any life path they desire and not be criticized. I respect your view on life but you need to get your facts right. I have been to many places in South America, South East Asia, lived in Italy and Greece as well as America and Australia and let me tell you that Greece and Italy do not have many conservative men or women so I am not sure what you are basing your above comments on. I have also visited an Amish society. Yes they have kept their traditional values but every year there is less of them and the main reason for that is because many do not agree with their way of life. You cannot force people to live a certain way. I also dislike very much how you are generalizing the whole Hungarian female group as liberal women, I am sure like every other country in the world there is conservative and liberal women. How would you know? You have met 5-10 women from the country and all of a sudden you know how the entire female population thinks. Anyway good luck finding a woman that will sit at home and cook you food and wash your clothes and raise your children while you work. Sounds like one heck of an offer for a woman to accept. As a man, me personally I would rather have an equal.
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Amish? You are joking they have like on average 7 kids and one of the fastest growing commuites in the USA, very few every leave. Got to Amishameirca.com explore the site and ask an Amishman on the site.
I say all over this site this is a sociological trend not a comment on the reality of anyone.
Women need to be submissive their husbands like men need to be to their wives. It is called surrendering ego and will for love.
You are so bent on trying to define women as equal you miss the point of love which is submission to your beloved.
I am basing what I write on statiscal average. For exampe in Hungary here is about a 50% divorce rate like in the USA. But in Italy like 10%.
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Hey,Hello I don’t know who you are, or who do you think you are, but I am a hungarian girl, and I really-really hope that you will not marry me, (I’m begging you!) because I don’t want to be some kind of household-slave with 5-6 children
Yes, maybe I have my carreer,and sometimes I like it,sometimes I am really proud to be what I am, but sometimes I think should have children, husband, big house, dog etc. Now, close to 30 I have no choice, i have to do a good carreer, because most of hungarian families need the money from the woman’s salary as well.
You think that the hungarian girls are only responsible for the divorce rate? I think there are man and women in the marriage, and they are both responsible to make that succesful and long lasting. Don’t you think so?
Slovakian Hungarians and a few girls form Budapest (you might have visited some clubs like drunk tourists do) ? Is that all you have seen? You haven’t seen ANY (average) Hungarian girs I think.
Budapest is a big city, and in it’s history it was always different from any other parts of Hungary. Slovakian Hungarian territories are mostly small villages, trying to keep some Hungarian culture, identity, and fight against total assimilation.( Do you know that it is penalized to say just one Hungarian word in Slovakian public offices? )
So please don’t write about things you don’t KNOW.(no, I was still not an average feminist Hungarian girl, I was just an angry type girl.)
Greetings from Hungary
Kata
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Hi Kata, Very funny post, but I see your point thought your humor. However, basically you paint my view as something it is not. That is, who ever mentioned anything about a slave wife?
The idea is men and women should focus on their children and relationship; career is important only to the extent that it helps the end of a family living in according to God’s wisdom. That is a family centered on the family and the well being of the innocent.
Career in most cases is a joke.
The financial crisis has taught this lesson to many. Businesses do not care about you and your boss does not.
Do not live to make money but make money to live, so forget about career and start thinking about love and family.
I agree with you that there are many offensive tourists that visit Budapest. I do not like that type of tourism. But this is everywhere.
I understand the two income family idea. In every country it is the same. Even in rich USA women say they need to work to provide for the family. Truly impovished families might have to make this exception, but think of India or poor countries where the woman stays at home. Poverty is relative.
A woman at home can make the family rich, in other ways, take care of the child, who needs its mother at a young age. Did you know IQ and personality is largely determined under the age of 5. The best think you can do in life is raise a happy child.
Children do not need money as much as love.
If you are clever you can be at home and do a home based business.
Kata, I do not have all the answers and maybe I am wrong about somethings, but I think family is more important than career.
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“A marriage with a Magyar woman will end in divorce almost 50% of the time compared to other European countries, some that have a 5% rate. It is one of the highest in Europe. Marriage is about love and love is not conditional. But to these brides I guess it is”
A marriage BETWEEN a magyar woman and a magyar man. There are NO statistics for Magyar women and “AnyOtherCountry” men. And divorce rate doesn’t tell anything about love, and conditions. How is the divorce rate in some arabian countries? Do you have statistics about that? Would you say thoose marriages are made of total and unconditional pure love???
You know why this post makes me to write a comment for it? Not just because your informations are not complete. No, the reason is that you say “hey boys go and have a good time with the Hungarian b***s, but that’s all they are good for. They are angry feminists without any emotion, but hot blooded, you will have fun.”
And that makes me an angry feminist, and I feel I have to teach them the meaning of the word “respect”…. again..and again… and again… and i am really-really tired of that…
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India, Italy, Macedonia, Greece, Poland all have low divorce rates. Maybe I was a little hard on Hungary, I am sorry and maybe need to rewrite the post. But I do stand opposed to divorce. Basically if you stand on the alter before God and family and swear you will be with the other, you should take it seriously. I will stay with my wife always. I would do that even if I was unhappy (which I am not). Life is not about being happy, it is about living a meaningful life.
Hungarians do have a higher divorce rate than normal and I think this great culture, the country of Mary, the holy mother, as turned away from its traditions and embraced a more modern way of thinking.
I do not think guys should have a good time with Hungarian women at all. All women are to be respected as they have a special purpose on this earth.
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Mark, stop being so hard on yourself here. You were very correct in your post. The many ranting and angry posts by the Hungarian feminists on this thread were enough to convince me that they have poor manners, lack of respect and are not humble or traditional. Just re-read the posts to see how much they cry and scream about how they are entitled to partying, fun, how marriage/childern is slavery and how they worship their careers. As a matter of fact, some of Magyars here seem even more polarizing then American women I met.
Mark, I think you are on the money. The truth will never be dispensed without a good amount of contraversy and condemnation.
My question is, why don’t you Hungarian women realize that you will be extinct soon? THe more and more of you who become successful career women and have all your poor ex-communist grandparents/parents to give you praises will soon leave this earth. Soon, you will have a future society lacking any poeple to maintain yoru society. You are really like selfish children who decided to go and play , make money and shun any responsibility in life to make up for all the hardships and struggles your ancestors had. This is very unfortunate. In a time of peace, people become complacent and fail to realize what danger lies in wait for them. As I said before, your partying, careers and prestige will fade away one day. Most Hungarian women will die alone, sad and feeling unsatisfied like many American women, but, perhaps, even worse!
However, I do want to make a comment. With respect to Italy and Greece, they are very secular countries. However, amongst the populations in this country is some very religious ultra-Orthodox and Catholic people. Italians aren ot without problems, some of the lowest birthrates in Europe and many of them women work full time rather than settle down and have a family.
Southern Italy is much more traditional and the lifestyle and culture there is still very strong. Italians are still proud of being Italian and hold their values very dear. Northern Italy is very “Modernized”. Northern Italian culture is Bavarian and it resembles Germany in many ways. Northern Italy is the fashion capitol of the world. There is quite a conflict between Northern and Southern Italians. The cultures of the two Italies conflict greatly.
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Dear Yonathan yes maybe I am bad and carreerist. But just try to survive, and be traditional from an average husband’s cca.500 USD salary/month. This is not enough to pay the bills of the flat I live.Food and living costs is sometimes more expensive here than in Austria. We are forced to be hard and strong. This is not feminism.
Do you think communism was the best way to live? And I have to tell, my grandparents were anti-communists, they have been in prison for that… I hope you will never know what it means, and what happened in 1956 here in Hungary…
And sorry admin, but if I feel responsibility for my future children, the Indian way you mentioned is not for me. I don’t talk about being rich. I talk about survive.
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First, why do you get paid so little? Do you live in Budapest and get paid that? What is your background and experience?
Second you know prices are not the same in Eastern Europe as in London or NYC so to write 500 units of pay a month means nothing as there Purchasing power index needs to be taken into account. In fact the Economist magazine wrote an article that it is better to be a senior manager in Warsaw than in London, because you have to consider cost.
Third, you live in United Europe. EU. I moved from the countryside to NYC to work. You can move to Vienna or Paris and get paid more. People in the United States move like people in United Europe can move. You do not have do be a local provincial victim. I moved my life many times, including to places where I did not speak the language.
Fourth, no one owes you a good paying job. Kids out of school with shinny degrees what to be paid. Wrong. That is a communist attitude. The question is what can you contribute to the company that would be worth more than 500 bucks a month?
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Survive. No way, I have 100s if not 1000s of people writing me saying how they want to get into the EU including Eastern Europe. I have a website about languages and people find it and are begging to get into Eastern Europe or for a visa. Hard life is Africa, or India not foofy Budapest or Paris or Vienna. The whole world wants to have what you have, and EU citizenship. I am sorry I live in Eastern Europe and unless you play the victim, you have the world of opportunity.
Strong is humility. Strong is saying, not what can I get paid, but what can I contribute. Strong is having faith.
I would imagine you have no serious physical aliments, at your age you should be moving mountains. If you are not, change you attitude. You can move mountains.
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I respect your grandparents, but that was 1/2 century ago. That was not you. Do not take juice and nobility from them. How can you make a difference today?
You talk about money and your kids? Are you married? Do you not think children and the love of your life might be something to focus on more than cash?
Kata, if you want to compare hardship stories and strong, I would find it highly unlikely you can match the pain in my life. I am not proud of it or anything, but it is the way it is. I used this pain and suffering to be a more spiritual person. For example, I have bleeding in my brainstem many years ago. For about 15 years my life was almost nothing but pain. It is getting better, but 15 years of suffering is a long time. Real physical suffering. I have had other things of course, that is the start, but I do not say, look at my environment. I do something about it. I live in Eastern Europe like you. I found a way to say at home so I can be with my family. There is nothing wrong with that. I am not getting paid the 10,000 dollars a month I earned in Boston but family is more important.
I think the hard and strong you talk about as an EU citizen is more relative than absolute.
I think many people suffer more than me. But life is not about comparing this or that. It is about putting your trust in God and moving forward with your life in a positive way.
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You have so many points, but I try to give you the answers, if you want.
500 USD it is not my salary, but belive me, it is an average salary for young people like me. Especially in eastern regions of hungary. The minimal salary by law is less than 400 USD now. Many old people live from about 150. USD after working for years in communism.
“I respect your grandparents, but that was 1/2 century ago. That was not you. Do not take juice and nobility from them.”
I don’t do that. but if I read comments like this “The more and more of you who become successful career women and have all your poor ex-communist grandparents/parents to give you praises will soon leave this earth.” (Yonatan September 21st, 2010 at 11:09) I have to ask “hey man what the hell are you talking about? what do you know about my grandparents or my history?”
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Average salaries are pretty low in Hungary, but that does not mean yours has to be. Look, the biggest myth is just because the economy or where you life is bad, it has to determine your life. Only you determine your life. Many people who use their brains, rather then the fact they have a university degree will prosper, no matter what situation they are in. Second happiness is not about money.
“You can move to Vienna or Paris and get paid more.”
Yes, but who will make this country better if everyone moves to Vienna or Paris? i am sad that so many of brilliant hungarian scientists do that, because they have no future here. I think it is a kind of strength to stay and fight for my culture, my people, my country. Many times you say you respect traditional values, so in my case how can you say that I am wrong if i belive in a better future and i stay here(and sometimes suffer )for that?
Eu citizenship: I think we are still not considered to be equal for many reasons. Eu gives money for the farmers to stop that, and to destroy their plants and trees. Eu didn’t say a single word for Slota’s decision in Slovakia, when he prohibited to say a single Hungarian word in public offices. we are still not equals, we are forced to do a lot of harmful things. I don’t think Eu gives such a great oppurtunity as you think.
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Easy, make money in Paris and return with tons of investment capital. Only in a country like Hungary can you work for a few years in another city and buy a house in cash or own a company. Americans can not do that nor can Parisian as they come from rich countries. Being Hungarian you have an opportunity to get very rich, if you see it as a capitalistic opportunity.
You do not need money to make money. It is called intellectual capital. This type of capital is always better than real capital. You can stay in Hungary and get rich.
Poles who worked in London returned and bought houses in cash and businesses. Wow, I think every American I know would like to have it that easy.
EU is a blessing for Hungary, your country will become so rich that your kids will be as rich as any other wealthy country and the whole would will want to live there. You will see and remember I wrote this.
You are a bright girl and aware and caring about your country, just do not think that it is all that bad. When I live in the USA, I unloaded trucks all day for little money, even with a masters degree as there was a crisis when I got out of school. It was hard work, all day long to unload trucks. But so what, it taught be that no one owes you anything including a high paying job, you have to go out a make it for yourself. Life is an empty canvas.
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Hardship stories and strong? No, I would never compare 2 lifes. People are so selfish, they always think that they suffer more than the one who cries near them. I’ve read it in my childhood -favourite book, Dumas:The count of Monte Christo. It is true for you and me either. For me my pain and suffering was enough for a life, but it is a long story.
Where you live, and where you looking at the things determines your point of wiev. You live in Eastern Europe, and met many Romanian, Slovakian, Russian people. We have some historical conflict with them, so if many of your friends are from these nations, you will not be objective for Hungarians. A good excample for that: if you have lived with Hungarian people, you would never accept the Roman continuity theory as a fact, and you would never consider that history. You can never be objective, the point of wiew determines what you will see. A bird on the sky will see a different landscape than the ant in the grass. Though it is the same field anyway.
But after writing so much I have to tell you something, and I hope it will not hurt you. If you are on your spiritual way as you say, how can you think that you are better than others around you, how can you think that you can make statements, judgements about whole nations? How can you feel that you have to teach me or others for the TRUTH and VALUES. I had an American and Christian English teacher in my high school who was thinking the same way like you do. She came in for the first lesson, and she told that we are all racists, because there are no gypsies in the class.(the school had written application anyway, and they didn’t asked colours and races. If you hit the level, you were welcome) Than we asked her about black people, and black history in America…well…she had no black friends at all, because they are so……s. She was stupid, and we were laughing at her. You are American, you are religious, you think that you are better than I, and you are writing judgement about me and other Hungarian girls, just the way she did. But you see I don’t say religious Americans are ALL like this, and I don’t say you are stupid of course.
Everyone has his/her own truth, your truth is not above all other’s truth. Every single person is unique and wonderful on his/her own way. You are not better than me, and I don’t want to be better than you. In this life you have no friends, no enemies. Everyone is your teacher, and there is a reason why you meet going on that spiritual way.
have a nice day, life etc.
I don’t want to continue explaining you my point, because it is impossible for you and some commenters to understand how we Hungarian girls think. Maybe we are not even living at the same “field”.
Kata (lawyer26)
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I live in Poland, I have said that many times. Being spiritual is not about saying everything is moral and OK. It is about having the awareness to see what is good for the soul and what is not.
For example, putting career first over family is not. That is not a reasonable moral stand, not a judgement.
Telling people that in a world that tells watches S_x in the city and reads Cosmo and listens to Lady Gaga with her upside down cross, that maybe you can say no to pop culture trends and opinions, including feminism is not a judgement, its a message to counter the clouded noise that lead to broken lives.
You talk about historical conflicts, every country has had these. It is 2010 EU and peace and love move forward. If anything if you want to bring those up Hungary was on the wrong wide in WWII.
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ps:
Are you feminist?
You have left a comment for my last comment, so I’d like to answer it: you say that I have great opportunities to find a good job, to move to different places,cities, countries to think capitalistic. I know my opportunities and abilities. I speak different languages (sometimes not correctly i know, but.)I think in many things i am and i think like a typical young Hungarian girl. I see my way, my future life here. But do you know what advice you give to me in your last 3 comments?
You say: come on girl,your only way is to move on, work hard and make you know what? Career
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I am saying you do not have to be so negative and fault finding with your own country.
You can do anything you set your mind to. Including if a Hungarian wants to get rich they can get rich in their own country by using intellectual capital. Its a global market, in fact Hungarians have a unique advantage it is a low cost country.
But for a 30 year old woman, maybe, just maybe, I do not know, I would not be focusing on my career because if I did I would swindle myself out of my own life.
Family is more important, you will never get these years back.
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I am not a feminist. Why? I believe men and women are equal. It is a sin to be s_xist.
Feminist of right to work and women’s suffrage movement was a good thing.
Women using the legal system against men or to destroy the family unit is a bad thing. Women are the center of the family being wife and mother. Some modern thinking wants to destroy the special role of a lady and make her a man. Why would a woman want to be a man. It hurts women and women believe that junk and they do not know it will hurt them in the long run. In Poland where I live, women are not mostly not into that. They are into family.
I would highly advice girls to be aware that what is being portrayed in the media as the way to live is not the only way to live.
Amish women live in another way and are very happy.
Polish women are traditional and in my experience happy with their family and careers are not important.
The world has many ways to live, just be aware that the western media way is not necessarily the best for a happy fulling life.
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Kata, you took my comment about your communist relatives out of context. What I mean is, your trying to work hard to make money and shun marriage and children to impress your relatives who never had those opportunities. Sadly, all those relatives of yours who are impressed with you today will soon pass away and nobody will be left on this Earth to praise you for becoming a successful career woman.
On another note, you complain about how poor and suffering you are as to why you cannot marry, have children and have to work a career. Let me tell you, you have not ever witness poverty or suffering!
I, myself, was in Africa for 5 months doing humanitarian work with widows and orphans suffering from HIV. I spent time with ladies dying in mudhuts with AIDS, who had 12 children. If these poor ladies could manage to have 12 children in a small mudhut, even some suffering with HIV, how is it a person like you cannot afford to have a few children, work a part time job and marry a man who can be the breadwinner?
The problem is you are setting your goals very high so you can imitate those women from Paris, London, New York who you admire so much! You want to buy fancy clothes, shop at all the classy stores and have a life full of partying and fun.
I am sad to say, you Hungarians are not going to have fun forever! America was a country that toiled, labored and had a very hard struggle in the beginning. Many of our ancestors worked themselves almost to death to provide an easier life for their children and grandchildren. The women in USA were at home and raising children until the 1960s. Now, USA’s population is decreasing, divorce is skyrocketing , drug addiction is soaring.
Somehow though, Eastern European people so eagerly desire to live the Western life that they lose all sense of reason to pursue it! Look at all these Eastern European wearing expensive designer clothing, eating at fancy restaurants, shopping at the high class stores. Many of them cannot even afford this lifestyle, but its the constant craving of being accepted by the Western World. Its funny that women from these poorer Central/Eastern European countries dress in more expensive clothes then women in USA, live a more lavish lifestyle, yet then complain they have no money and don’t have time for family. I bet if you really wanted a family you could make it work, but rather it would intrude the current lifestyle you enjoy.
Kata, you are a 26 year old lawyer in Europe.. This is why you don’t want a family, not because you don’t have money. If you want to take a mission trip to Africa with me and come visit some villages in Uganda, Tanzania and Ghana, I will show you have some of these ladies live who farm their own food, live in mud houses and have to raise many children. They are very noble in character. No play time or fun for them..
I, myself, work 12-13 hour day job and save my money and don’t splurge and enjoy many of the pleasures that I see some of these Central/Eastern Europeans enjoying. Why is
Mark, if you want to take a look into Hungarian morality, watch this perverted Hungarian Love Parade. You see hom_s_xual openly having s_x in the streets in front of children and old people. It really is a lust festival and is very unruly. How can you expect to find good women in a country that has sadistic and perverted parades like this. Even the gay pride/sex parades in the USA don’t come anywhere in terms of immorality as this Hungarian Love Parade. Kata, do you deny that your country might have an issue with morality? I know in Romania, Italy, even in England, you won’t see a parade where people are openly having sex and nude in public. I know this behavior is your ways to express your freedom from communism, sadly you are exchanging one evil philosophy for another. Even the Dutch people are starting to get fed up with all the child pro_stitution, drug use and all the problems their liberal lifestyles have created. There has been talk of making prostit_tion illegal in Amsterdam and more and more Dutch people are starting to support removing the coffee shops and wh_re houses. There is a price to pay for these types of pleasures, your society as a whole will deteriorate.
Here is a video of poor starving Hungarian women who just don’t have time for a family, but they do have time for their s_x parades:
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Budapest Filth Parade 2005.. Notice all the almost-n_ked girls wearing their dev_l horns:
youtube.com/watch?v=VR_-tQSAsKc&feature=related
What a holy and moral country? I wonder if Romanians would allow a festival like this as they do in Hun-gay-ry.. If they would, I say shame on Europe.
Maybe Asia/Latin America would be my next destination.
I have read more staggering comments above and I am now being really stunned at the extent to which
some Hungarian girls in this forum are wrong in every possible way. So before getting straight to the point I need to make a few initial remarks.
There are many different elements which can form a country’s reputation. It’s quite complex, but out of all there’s undoubtedly one chief driving factor that contributes to it a lot is their women’s attitude towards (easy) s_x.
In my view the deeper a country sinks in moral and economic sh*t (the two go usually together) the cheaper their women get. It regularily happens wartime or when it’s over. It’s not at all a solely Hungarian thing, it’s a human thing, just think of any poor region, s_x exploitation in the far East and that sort of things all root in poverty and lack of pride, or in the past just think of Germany after the siege of Berlin in a completely ruined city it was easier to find flesh than meat and the relation between US soldiers and German girls is very well known and understood.
Girls, the word “pride” “and being proud” what you in this forum keep mentioning i don’t quite get. There’s something fundamentally wrong with your thinking. First question: can you explain what are you really proud of? Because that remained untold. There’s another issue here. I cannot workout what many of you referred to Hungarian girls as “liberal”. “We are very liberal” or stuff like that. Can you please point it out and enlight me, in your interpretaion what the word “liberal” supposed to mean? I’ve always thought this being a political-economical term.
Hungarian girls are all beleive in free trade and market or what? Or was it to mean they’re open for sex?
In the various meanings of this word I cannot recall anything like providing easy access to our genital organs for basically any creature that speaks the English language. (If a dog could learn it I wouldn’t have any doubt…).
Well it may shock you girls what i am to tell you, and honestly sorry for that, but in everyones life there is a point to come when facing reality is a must. So be strong:
this is what Hungarian girls are pretty much known for all across Europe from Italy to the UK. Just go and do google for the endless stag-do comments on forums available on the net. And yes, Spatula, does have a point, Budapest indeed is the capital of poor-N0 and loose women. And such a reputation can hardly do anything with “pride” and “being proud of”. I am not saying women should only have sex one man in their entire life but the way some Hungarian girls pursue that sport goes a bit extreme. Let’s face it girls there’s nothing “funnny”, even cool, let alone “sexy” in ***** with a complete Welsh rugby team in a nighclub latrine. It’s just unsexy, believe me. It’s been for the last two decades kind of a sport gradually evolving in Hungary namely: shagging with as many people as possible. And not just among men but women too. That is considered as a very cool thing in Hungary. But in fact it’s not. It all stem from the complete misconception of Wetern lifestile. I know you just wanted to resemble (so did the Czechs, Poles, Ukrainans..). In yearning for western lifestaile so much, after the fall of bloody communism and in the effort of becoming sort of “westish”, in the end the East ended up overdoing it (“outfcking” the West, just to put it bluntly, sorry). Like it happened virtually with any stupid craze came from the US and Western-Europe when it came for Hungarians to adapt it, it happened always in a bit, shabby, cock-up, local way, and most importantly in az hugely exeggerated way. One-night-stands and all sort of things were deemed cool on the lucky side of the iron curtain since 1969 let’s say for a further twenty years, but not much today. Or at least not to that extent as it used to be, or definitely not that craving, rampant way Hungarian people seek casual sex in every corner, both men and women and not just teenagers or youths. My observation is this: the speed of idiocy propagating from West to East is (sh*t would be a more precise word for it) about twenty years. Former communist countries (including H.) inclined to adapt only stupid things from the West but never decent ones like polite customer service just to mention one example of the many. By the time the rubbish arrives to the “East” it quickly turns out to be crap in the “West”. When going out fashion in the West people in the East still stick to it to the point until the nonesence becomes apparent for the last folly follower of the “new wave”. That twenty year time lag. Staying single is another example, it’s just beginning to gain popularity nowdays in Hungary. Meanwhile it goes untrendy in the West and having kids coming to fashion again.
So it is all up to you, dear Hungarian girls, to change the way people like to associate you with. I am far from thinking all girls are loose in H but the reputation is this unfortunately (namely: cheap sex and poR-nindustry.)
There’s an awful lot of work to do to mend it which is all pending on you. Therefore it is you who can do the most to restore the former reputation of this once great nation by not getting laid by the first english speaking guy who approaches you at the bar. Pride and dignitiy never go together with shaggin around. I am not saying you should stay away from having sex with more men when you’re young or get married at 20 and must stay with husband for your entire life even when he beats you up.
This is Europe not the muslim world, but there got to be a reasonable limit, not least for health reasons. And be proud ofcourse, but not for the number of man you slept with. Being open is important, but open your mind rather than your thighs. So do change this attitude, please. It’s nasty, it does no good for Hungary neither outside nor inside of it, it’s just not funny. It’s uncool and by no means sexy.
Hungarian girls
Liberal could be mean anything depending on what side of the pond you are from. In the USA it means moral liberal, you support things like text books in the public school system called “Johnny has two Mommies” (like in CA, hey, I am not saying that life style is bad, just way do little kids need to learn that instead of the ABCs), and arresting students and teachers for praying in school or like in Boston having a free condom program for 1st graders.
In Europe liberal means Adam Smith and John Locke and the enlightenment.
Me I am economically liberal, basically libertarian as I believe the government, that governs least governs best and this was the ideal of the founding fathers, but I am morally conservative, that means, I believe the family unit is the center of our society and when you take it apart many people get hurt, mostly the innocent. I also believe freedom of religion is not freedom from religion.
But here a lib is painted a broad stroke of the brush as a feminist in the 2010, sense of the word, not like mentioned the equality of women and men sense. We all believe men and women are equal.
Hungarian girls
I didn’t want to write any more comments, but as an agressive Hungarian feminist and God knows what else…:) I have to leave just one more( or maybe 2)
And yes, in many comments you say we have to do this, have to do that, but when you see succesful girls, doing exactly what you said, you say they are carreerists and feminists and soulless monsters. That’s why I asked you if you are a feminist or not.It was an ironic part of my comment, but you really should decide….
historical conflicts: you will NEVER understand that, and it was the WWI. to be correct….and it was just less than 100 years ago, so it is better if you don’t talk like this about this topic with ANY Hungarians.
EU carreer: let’s make it clear, I don’t talk about my own problems when I am talking about money. my situation is special, because I could live with my family in the USA legally and easily anytime. When I talk about salaries, I talk about average people around me. And if ALL of them would try to travel to other EU countries, EU would soon close the doors for us. All Hungary can’t just go and move to London or Paris
Yonatan: do you know, that Love Parade actually comes from Berlin??? It is not a Hungarian idea.And in the last 4 years (or more)we don’t have Love Parade on Budapest… But as I know for excample in Serbia this summer was a festival like that for hom.xs and in New York they have it too… and many places of the world.
You know why i am working hard and learning? Because I don’t want to live like that! And it is such an easy thing to find myself there, in the mud if I am not fighting against that. But if you think that it is a good way how African women do this, why don’t you go there and stay there for your whole life?Why did you go home? it is so easy to judge from outside, and see suffering, if you know when after jou did your job in Africa, you go back to your home, you will have clear water, food, your children will go to school, and don’t have AIDS. But African people will stay there for their whole life. You wouldn’t live like that, and I wouldn’t. So sorry, but you seem quite hypocratic for me.
When you mentioned Africa, I didn’t understand you clearly. do you think that it is normal to live in mud? Do you think we Hungarian girls should live like that???? you know some parts of Hungary etnical minorities are living like that. With 12 children starving in the mud…
Hungarian girls
You know it is funny you keep on talking about some abstract average. Well here is the reality. We each determine our own fate. John Locke and Adam Smith believed like the other enlightenment thinkers that we have free will. If you want to dig a ditch for 3 Eur and hour, that is your choice. I am sorry, we live in a free Europe. You can do anything you put your mind to. I have worked many midnight shifts, worked on the loading dock and many hard jobs. But that was my choice. I also choose to read books on my own and acquire new skills. That was my choice. I traveled and moved away from my comfort zones.
Hungarians do not need to move from Hungary to get rich, that was one option. What they need to do is think like, what can I create in the world that would help others. We are in a global market place and no one owes you anything especially a good paying job or a pension. You have to go out and get it for yourself.
I feel bad for people in Africa or South America or Asia who live in real poverty not some EU citizen that wants to show up for a job for 20 years and get paid western wages. The world does not work like that anymore.
Kata,
Just because you get pulled into these flames of war (like I have many times on the web), peace and love. This is all for open discussion, not hard feelings and do not feel hard towards others. Yonatan, is a bright guy and good hearted person, he just sees the world different from you because of experience. As, I see the world different from you because of my experience (I can see some of your points), all this is interesting, but none of it is personal.
Hungarian girls
Doctor:
You know this stereotype that Hungarian girls are cheap comes from tourists.Tourists who come here to discos, night clubs to have cheap sex. Yes, sometimes they find it, if they are looking for that in the right place. But these tourists just come here to visit night clubs and discos. They don’t go to the church, they don’t go to libraries, they don’t go to offices. They don’t meet ALL Hungarian girls, they meet Hungarian girls from the nightlife, sometimes maybe professionals:) if you know how I mean…People find what they are looking for. Is that the fault of that who sells or who buys????
“liberal” the word for me means, that everybody is welcome here in my country. You have a right to say anything whatever you want, even if you say that our girls are b*tch*s, and we are still talking abuot tis topic, instead of kicking your a*** for it.:)
Hungarian girls
Kata, who are you calling a hypocrite?? I was in Africa for 5 months in villages with people suffering and dying. Tell me, when in your life have you ever spent your own money to fly to a poor, impoverished country, donate computers, training and time to an orphanage/NGO organization and risk your life in the whole process.
You don’t even know what happened to me when I was visiting these places. Also, you don’t know all the beauty of these places and the strength that these people have, that you, yourself do not have!
AND YOU TOTALLY MISSED MY POINT!!! My point was that if an African lady in a mudhut, dying of AIDS, can raise 12 children, probably with a salary that equates to $200 a year, you can have a family, raise 3 or 4 children in Hungary! Just the fact you have a computer, show how ignorant and spoiled you really are!
And, if you want to come with me to Africa you are welcomed! I was to be made a chief in the village in Ghana and I made many wonderful friends there. Actually, there is many things about Ghana that I liked more than USA. Yes, the people are poor, but they have heart and soul unlike many Americans and Hungarians! They work hard, but enjoy the little they have and have much more joy in life.
Let me know if you want to come to Africa, I am ready to go.. Let me show you real poverty. Let me show you real happiness! You make all types of excuses, Miss Feminist! In reality you are weak in spirit and self-centered, just like most western women. However, you Hungarian women are worse, because unlike Western women, you have to prove the world, how western, sexually free and liberated you are!
Hungarian girls
I am in Budapest for a two-weeks-study trip, and after reading all these comments i can’t but wonder how kata has been able to stay calm, friendly and objective after all the insults, lies and moral teachings of the owner of a blog about girls in the world, who gets more conservative every entry he writes, and his pathetic colleagues.
why do i write “pathetic”? well, its a long time i had not read anything so unfair and… plain stupid as, e.g.:
“…if an African lady in a mudhut, dying of AIDS, can raise 12 children, probably with a salary that equates to $200 a year, you can have a family, raise 3 or 4 children in Hungary! Just the fact you have a computer, show how ignorant and spoiled you really are!”
“the way some Hungarian girls pursue that sport goes a bit extreme. Let’s face it girls there’s nothing “funnny”, even cool, let alone “sexy” in ***** with a complete Welsh rugby team in a nighclub latrine. It’s just uns_xy, believe me. It’s been for the last two decades kind of a sport gradually evolving in Hungary namely: shagging with as many people as possible. And not just among men but women too. That is considered as a very cool thing in Hungary. But in fact it’s not. It all stem from the complete misconception of Wetern lifestile. I know you just wanted to resemble (so did the Czechs, Poles, Ukrainans..)” (and so on)
“if you want to take a look into Hungarian morality, watch this perverted Hungarian Love Parade. You see hom_s_xual openly having s_x in the streets in front of children and old people. It really is a lust festival and is very unruly. How can you expect to find good women in a country that has sadistic and perverted parades like this.”
and once more i feel lucky to have been born in Europe and be able to travel as much as i want to cities as wonderful as Budapest, which itself probably offers more exciting places to visit than half of the whole US, where i can relax, play chess or party in one of the magnificent thermal baths. or study what went wrong with communism and what historical events have led to today’s situation of Hungary, meet the complex and proud people of Hungary, learn their unique language and, why not, have sex with one or more of them if we feel like, one of the many joys of life that these guys over there not only do not want to indulge in (apparently), but also want to take away from us, probably in the name of some religious moral superiority…
Its ok for me if You don’t want to have a Hungarian wife. she wouldnt want you anyway. do not come here at all, you do not deserve it.
Hungarian girls
Thanks for the comment and blanking out the bad words
Even though I might have crazy opinions sometimes like everyone, I try to moderate and make it PG rated especially deleting h_te or really angry comments etc. But I try to also keep it open. If any of my comments or posts go over the line write me.
I agree Europe is a great place and Yonatan, would agree most likely that the culture here in Europe is great. I love chess for example, and history and art. However, I think he is a pretty peaceful guy, but he is not shy about calling people out on their morality and showing it for what it is, in a passionate way.I try to but do not always read every comment here, so maybe I miss stuff.
However, the issue is this, I remember when I went to school in the USA the biggest problems were running in the halls and chewing gum in class. Really. Now there has been such a cultural transformation, in some ways good, but in many ways have destroyed the fabric of the family and understanding or morality.
It is not OK to sleep with people freely or pursue your career before your family. I think girls today think it is fine. I am a man and even for me career means nothing. Family is everything, so I am not saying this is lightly. I work to live not live to work.
If you think being a feminist is good, I say go ahead do it, knock yourself out. But I think you will see you are swindling yourself out of your own life. You will lose self respect when you see guys do not stay around too long and you are in your 30s and you have your cats and careers but no family. Maybe I am wrong.
But mostly guys read this blog and I highly advise them not to be with some free loving feminist and do not feel you have to be. The world is large and there are many girls in the world out there that would love to be a loving mother and wife more than anything. And the interesting thing is these girls are beautiful, calm, peaceful and life giving.
Maybe there are Hungarian girls like this, but I do know if you go a little further east like Poland or Romania women are maybe just a little bit more traditional and are proud of it, and maybe if I was a guy looking for a wife, why not go for what you want?
Hungarian girls
“study what went wrong with communism”
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So you’re implying it had been a good thing but at some point “it went wrong”, aren’t you?
Hahaha!!! YOu’r really funny, mate. Honestly
It was evil from the start.
“However, you Hungarian women are worse, because unlike Western women, you have to prove the world, how western, sexually free and liberated you are!”
yep.
Could’t have put it any clearer myself. The point is yours.
funny, you know, i didnt blank the “bad words”, i would never do that. i just copy-pasted what appears on my chrome browser…
thanks for accepting my post, by the way. i will comment on your answer later.
Try to use caps for I and the start of the sentence, as I try to clean up chat style comments. Some people leave totally chat style and I just delete them. Sorry, because this site gets scores of comments a day I try to clean some or delete others, but not based on opinion (unless they are out of control) but based on style.
Interesting about bad words, I need to set up filters.
what bothers me is not the bad words, but that yonatan tries to impose his morals on us. you do the same in a slightly more subtle way: “family is everything” and “its not ok to sleep with people freely” are your opinions/priorities. these are not absolute truths, i dont agree with them, for instance. to me, family is important, but not everything. and its perfectly ok to me to sleep with people freely as long as both want it. i miss this little “to me” in your entries. but then, this is your blog
pd: my genes would tell me that i should follow your “family is everything”. but then they would also suggest sleeping around as much as possible to spread them ;D
Hungarian girls
I am not my brothers keeper. On one level I could care less what people do with their lives. But on another hand, I have lived a little and I see how people go down the wrong path and do not know it until its too late.
For example, a lot of my friends who are girls, put their heart and soul into their career, they had multi partners while they were focusing on their career and they are in their late 30s trying to find that last hope guy, any guy, before their time is out.
No guy wants to be a solution for a girls life, but rather her prince.
Schopenhauer said ‘the world is a war of ideas’.
Just because one person takes stance on an idea does not mean, they want to impose it on anyone. People have free will and can do with what they want with the information. Further, I am not a know it all. I make many mistakes in my life. I have many problems. However, I am happy and spend my days with my family.
I partially have a message. That for every guy working out there, thinking that your only choice is to marry the girl next door in the USA or Western Europe, think again. You can marry a girl who will see you as your prince and she will be a real princess who willingly makes your home life a castle, no matter what your economic situation.
You can live a fairy-tale.
I also recommend not going for non-humble more feminist girls as they will tell you how wrong you are. Who needs that. Peace and love, spend your time with those who are peaceful, humble and have faith in God and you will have a happier more fulling life. Choose the right mate as it is one of the only real choices that are important in life.
Hungarian girls
I agree with 99% of what you wrote in your last entry.
Basically I think the financial crisis has waken a lot of people up that all that glitters is not gold and is gold does not glitter. You work you butt off hoping to do something with your life in a meaningful way in terms of career and the first sign of trouble you get downsized, and realize life is not meaningful unless you have true love. Career is an means to an end not an end in itself.
While your other friends who maybe are not making half of what you do and drive a beat up old car have a house full of kids.
Hungarian girls
Congratulations gabba you can go and have s_e_x with all girls you want. I guess that makes you special type of human? One day you will wake up and you will no longer be attractive, gray hair, wrinkles and realize all the fun you had in your younger days was in vain! Also, you may contract an STD , such as HIV and live in agony the rest of your days. The rate of HIV is increasing at an alarming rate in Eastern and CEntral Europe. This is God’s way of punishing the fornicators who indulge in the pleasures of the flesh rather then look into the hearts of each other. When women no longer want to have s_e_x with you, your life will come to a halt. One day the women will no longer enjoy s_e_x and they will not look beautiful. At that point you would be spiritually weak as you really never learned how to love a person.
In reality, I am the feminist. I love women for their inner-most being and spirit. I don’t care about how many college degrees a woman has or how beautiful the shape and curves are of her body. A man who wants a traditional wife, is a man who cherishes the true nature of woman and admires her. She is the one who helps raise his children and care for the home. This woman is more precious than gold to him. This is not to say a woman cannot work or make achivements, but it is the family, children and their religious/spiritual belief that bond their souls together.
Gabba, you love to sleep around, that is fine.. But I, as Mark says, am looking for my princess, if such a woman even still exists on this Earth. Unlike Mark, I am still skeptical, but maybe because I have been stuck in the USA for most my life.
I know women will prefer a man like you, because your are “Open-Minded” or say you say. But, by the end of the day you want to get inside a woman’s pants, I want to get inside a woman’s heart.
Maybe it’s time to wake up, look in the mirror and see who really appreciates a woman and her culture?
The Magyar people have proud heritage, history and at one time had a culture. Today, they might still have beautiful architecture, dress in their costumes for a cultural parade, but in the end, their culture is dead. Today its about s_e_x, money, spluring in material wealth.
The only people I have found so far in my journeys who are wholesome, humble and not immersed in the materialistic dogma and greed were some of the villagers I met when I was in Africa. They live simple life and don’t need so much. I am not saying they didn’t have problems, there were plenty of problems there too. It was just the modesty and humility of the people. THey had nothing to prove and didn’t have to show off. Of course, the wealthier African people in the city would die trying to prove how WESTERN and Superior they were. Ironic, isn’t it?
Hungarian girls
Oh yes, to clarify:
When I said “I am a feminist”.. I do not mean feminist in the context of the modern world. Meaning that women are superior to men and should live, act and behave as a man.
A modern feminist is actually a femina_zi . These are the destroyers of humanity and life who will result in the extinction of our Earth. They are already achieving this. Just look at the low birth rate of Europeans and White Americans in USA. All these societies are immersed with feminist ideology.
A true “feminist” is one who loves and respects the feminine nature of women, not the masculine, lesbian like nature of modern “feminist” women.
Hungarian girls
Also, you may contract an STD , such as HIV and live in agony the rest of your days. The rate of HIV is increasing at an alarming rate in Eastern and CEntral Europe. This is God’s way of punishing the fornicators who indulge in the pleasures of the flesh rather then look into the hearts of each other. When women no longer want to have s_e_x with you, your life will come to a halt. One day the women will no longer enjoy s_e_x and they will not look beautiful. At that point you would be spiritually weak as you really never learned how to love a person.
Yonatan:
-It does not make me any more special than anyone else, why should it? I did not say so.
- Of course I will get old and die one day. Does this mean all the beautiful moments were in vain? I do not think so. It is important to me to lead a happy life, and sex is part of a happy life. Among many other things, of course.
- I have found girls way with much greater character and heart than others, of course. However, there is something special and beautiful in most of the girls I have met. And I just can’t resist sleeping with a girl if I feel she wants it too, it is just too exciting. But believe me, I only rarely regret doing it. Most encounters teach me something new, or at least grant me a beautiful memory to remember.
- Come on, I use condoms (i was a teenager during the 90s, thus exposed to thousands of “stop aids, use a condom” campaigns, so i really never forget), do not use drugs, do not like the riskier “sex practices” and only fancy girls (not being homophobic like you). This results in an extremely low risk of contracting HIV, and a reasonably low risk of contracting other STDs. Of course the risk is not zero, but let’s say it is worth the risk to me. (Zero risk is impossible anyway for anything in life…) In about 14 years of intense active sex life I have not had any STD so far.
- I will go on later, as I have to leave, but one more thing I cant resist:
The magyar culture is NOT dead. Shame on you!!
Hungarian girls
Yonatan:
yes, I think you are hypocratic, because you want to teach me and others without knowing me and my life. You already think that you are better than me, because you have been in Africa. You say, that I am selfish or what because I don’t want to live in mud and I use a laptop. What do you use now while you are reading my comment??? I think my laptop, my clothes, my phone and all of my things were cheaper than yours.
I think a good person does what he/she has to do every day, silently, without anyone knowing about it. I don’t have to go to Africa for that. “think globally, act locally” this is what I believe in. But maybe you are not brave enough to face your and your country’s problems, that’s why you are running so far. Sorry, but I think going to Africa, to give them some help is just a kind of “parade”. Sounds good, you feel yourself better than others, but you don’t fix the problem of Africa. Than you go home to your nice home, drinking coffee, using a car, laptop, you drop half-eaten foods to garbage etc.etc… And you think you are better than others. After some good (and of course i think that was really nice from you to go there and try to help….)actions in your life you don’t want to see your own mistakes. And you are totally intolerant. That’s what I call hypocratic.
And of course what you know about my country (almost nothing) shows me what intrests you the most: love parade (as I told it’s a German idea, and not existing since 2005 or 2006…) and cheap girls. Nothing else. Actually I think everyone who has this impression of Hungary comes here to visit nigt clubs only, and than at home he says “ohh what a dirrrrrty sinner city” Or you guys think if you would go and offer money for cheap sex for any of my “feminist” hungarian friends on the street, they wouldn’t send you to hell inmediately????
Hungarian girls are not feminists anyway. Any other descriptions call us old-fashioned girls. You can hold the door for a hungarian girl, you step into the restaurant first, and you pay the bill, after dating you call her first and things like that for excample. Hungarian girls like real gentlemans, and not… well… other kind of guys.
Hungarian girls
one more thing: do you think being a lesbian is a modern feminist thing? Read about Sappho the greek writer and the ancient Rome. Even animals are homos_xual sometimes. Yes, feminists are responsible for the dying of dinosaurs too
Great enjoy all your s_x gabba, just like the heroine addict enjoys all his special moments. Many h_roine addicts say its better than S_X. So have a blast!
Yeah, you never caught an STD wow.. Condoms break and people get drunk and sometimes forget things.. Oh no, couldn’t happen to you. It can.. Maybe it wont.. But, maybe it will. Most people have sex with 3 or 4 people, you go around scr_wing all kinds of women, so you are at higher HIV risk. If you get it, its what you deserve, thats all I say. Shame on you for all the women’s souls you have defiled. Sad, that you use and abuse these women for their Vs. You have no power to love anyone. You are just a fornicator who lives for the next night of pleasure. You have a sickness, I pray for you.
Just like any addict to something evil, once your pleasure runs out, you will feel empty. Yes, on the final day of life, all the S_x you had will be meaningless and you may start to feel sorry that you used people for their bodies rather than loved them for their hearts. One day you may wake up and realize how blind and hateful you really are. Those quick moments of fun will torment you one day. Even if it is on your death bed.
Hungarian girls
Kata, You probably live much easier life than I do.
I work anywhere from 12-18 hours day, day and night. I don’t have time to party, have friends and play around, having all the lustful sex I please and trumpeting around how powerful of a feminist I am.
Listen, I am not bragging at all. Most people in my life don’t even know I was in Africa. I was just using the point to prove how futile your arguments were about your poor suffering life in Hungary.
I mean, geez you just go on a rant about how I am trying to prove how great I am. Actually, I have nothing to prove to femina_zi scum, like yourself , nor to anyone. I don’t give a dang whether or not you care about my trip to Africa. What I am trying to prove to you, get across your hollowed minded and stiff-necked self, is that there is people in world who suffer and struggle to get little. You have much more than many people in the world, but your spoiled and don’t appreciate it.
I do appreciate every little thing I have. I use to fast once a week, and actually joined my brothers in Africa, who probably had fuller bellies than myself. Fasting is something I do still, alone in the forest, far away from Femina_zis that weigh heavy upon my soul. Do I want to go and promote myself here, NO! I can live with or without food, with or without shelter. Rich or poor, I an contempt! But, I will still follow the teaching of my God. I will still accept the truth and not cling to my job, money and prestige to promote my own self-worth!
When I was younger, in my early 20s, I lived for a year in the worst slum of my city. I had my car stolen, heard gun shots at night, I had no heater in 20F weather everyday. I would be freezing as I sleep , living in an attic of a house I rented. This is also the place I found God and became close to him. I lived on fruits, nuts and salmon at the time.
Actually , Kata.. If you want to come to USA or Afica, I can show you how to live a hard life. It would be much easier for me , than your little spoiled self. I have been through a lot in my life, more than you ever probably have princess. Africa was just one of my many experiences. I got nothing to prove, unlike yourself! I live alone and work day and night trying to help myself and help my father and mother retire in their older age.
ms Feminist Kata. She doesn’t have enough money for children. She just couldn’t possibly marry a man, with her dual income, raise a few kids. No she must progress in her career and be praised by her parents, friends and make men believe she is better than them.
You’re a feminist! You are on a power trip and need to prove to people your prowess and superiority. Get over it!
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Yonatan: there is so much h_te in your heart. I feel sorry about you. You feel unloved, and you think girls don’t care about you because they are feminists and bad. No,the truth is that they don’t want you because you are a rude person and intolerance, and you want to change everyone. It has nothing to do with any “-izm”-s.
Actually it is You who is just one step to na-z*-sm, and not me. You think that you are better than anyone else, and you are using words for me like “spoiled” “selfish” “femina*zis” etc.
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Kata, talk about ideas in general and the theory of what is going on but please do not attack a person directly. If someone does it to you, I will also delete the comments, just let me know as I do not always read every comment. Thanks. Sorry, but sometimes the Internet gets pretty spicy when ideas get involved.
Admin: I see you are censoring comments in a way that I’ve never seen on other forums. You take parts out of them???? At least you should delete words without leaving grammatical mistakes in my sentences. Because I know English is not my native language, but I try to write correctly,but if you delete parts like that… Anyway it is not me who is attacking, it is your friend Yonatan,who was the adresse of my previous comment. And yes, it is personal. He used words for me, harder words than I used in my previous comment.”SICK” is not a swearword. Your friend keeps talking about the death of me, the death of gabba, the death of Hungarian people. Do you think it is a mentally healthy vision? And let me end my lines with something Hungarian, often used for closing conflicts like this, but I can not translate: “Kinyalhattyátok”
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Kata, My attacks were against your character. You came on this forum attacking all of us and our ideas. I, in return, spoke out against your insults. Yes, you labelled me all types of insulting and bad names, saying I am an evil hypocrite who went to Africa to make a name for myself. You are childish and profound in your ignorance. Not only do you evade every type of point we make, you take everything we say and manipulate it to your advantage.
Everything I said is true. You truly qualify as a femina_zi!
And don’t you dare call me a n_zi.. You HUngarians supported the n_zis and helped round up my relatives and exterminate them in your country. So you have plenty of blood on your hands in that regard too. Even as of now, most Jews are escaping Hungary due to the high number of neo-N_zis that are proliferating in your country.
No, I am not full of hate. Rather I am full of sorrow. There is nothing that I would like more than for you to open your eyes and swallow your pride. But, I know that is not possible, because you are too proud and we “bad men” are too outdated and will not accept your warped ideologies.
Women, don’t hate me at all, as long as I shut my mouth and flatter them with all types of sweet words. Believe it or not, I use to be not religious at all and even a feminaz_i myself at one time. My own mother is a femina_zi, but she respects me a lot, because she knows I am a man of honor. I am the kind of man who will be there for you at the end and give my life for my family. The type of men you carouse around with will flatter you, praise you and make feel happy all the time, but these men in the end will cheat on you or get bored of you. There is a reason why we have a 50%+ divorce rate in USA and Europe today. People are superficial and not genuine. Everyone tells people what they want to hear, but they do not speak from their hearts.
I love women.. The women of the bible were holy, loving, modest, virtuous, intelligent and pure, unlike the defiled and heartless women of today. I feel sorry for you Kata and many of the girls who are lost souls today. Believe me, I don’t hate you at all. Rather, I like you to open your eyes to the truth of your country. And stop being so proud of being a Hungarian. If you notice, I attack American society as well, for all the filth, perversion and spiritual degradation I see in the country I live.
We are all humans, but certain societies tend to adopt destructive teachings which damages their society as a whole.
OH yeah Kata, why do you support guys like gabba and hate me? Gabba, uses women for s_x and disregards their souls. I thought being a feminist meant that you would want a man to respect you for who you are, not for your private parts. I guess lustful s_x may be part of your feminist dogma. After all, I know new age girls need their “s_xual freedom”. Go figure, that so many single American girls over 25 today are single mothers? Coincidence?
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kata&admin:
its true, the same happened to me (i am almost sure).
i think it is absolutely obvious for an objective point of view that Yonatan is the one being aggressive. Kata has been very kind for what she has had to read. Do not protect him, or is he your evil Alter Ego?
yonatan:
“Great enjoy all your s_x gabba, just like the heroine addict enjoys all his special moments. Many h_roine addicts say its better than S_X. So have a blast!”
I will
I am sure heroine is better than sex. But the “post coitum animal triste”
surely is less bad than a heroine craving hangover…
“Yeah, you never caught an STD wow.. Condoms break and people get drunk and sometimes forget things.. Oh no, couldn’t happen to you. It can.. Maybe it wont.. But, maybe it will. Most people have sex with 3 or 4 people, you go around scr_wing all kinds of women, so you are at higher HIV risk. If you get it, its what you deserve, thats all I say. ”
Exactly. Didn’t I already say this? C_ndoms can break, happened to me twice, I was lucky not to get anything. I understand now why they broke, and it never happened again since. (I won’t forget c_ndoms , though, even in my drunkest, believe me. These campaigns were really frightening…). As I said: I accept the risk. The risk is reasonably low: Sleeping with an HIV infected person unprotected you will get infected yourself once in about 5’000 times. So using a condom which may break once every odd year is not completely safe but almost. I would not even dare to ride a bike otherwise, it’s way more dangerous than protected sex, in the sense that it percentually kills more people. But if I get it tomorrow, I will have deserved it, I agree. And you know what? Even dying in pain ten years later I probably won’t regret having lived this way…
“Shame on you for all the women’s souls you have defiled. Sad, that you use and abuse these women for their Vs. You have no power to love anyone. You are just a fornicator who lives for the next night of pleasure. You have a sickness, I pray for you.”
Don’t pray for me, please, it’s a waste of time. Who tells you I have made all these women unhappy? I have appreciated their company and treated them nicely, some more than others, but have tried never to hurt anyone unnecessarily. “Abusing” them is a strange term, can you only imagine rape?!
You do not have to be a psychologist to read out of these angry lines you write that the one who has a sick unnatural attitude towards sex is not me. I may be a bit selfish or needy sometimes, but hey! you seem to be obsessed and afraid of sex! Sex is something beautiful, this is what makes me a bit addicted to it, I agree. It is nothing to be ashamed of, nothing that harms people, that destroys souls, where one abuses the other one… The God you believe in has given you sexual feelings not only to reproduce, but also as a way to make you feel better and connected in a very special way to other people! Why should he have done it pleasurable otherwise? Why would he have created us so keen on it? Do you really think it is just a stupid test? How sad is that?
“Just like any addict to something evil, once your pleasure runs out, you will feel empty. Yes, on the final day of life, all the S_x you had will be meaningless and you may start to feel sorry that you used people for their bodies rather than loved them for their hearts. One day you may wake up and realize how blind and hateful you really are. Those quick moments of fun will torment you one day. Even if it is on your death bed.”
Again: S_x as “something evil”. But we had this already…
Sometimes I question my behaviour, and maybe I will change one day and have a child with a nice girl. I am sure if this ever happens all the past experience will help me in finding a good mother for this child. But for now I am still quite young, and convinced this is how I want to live, and not only that: I even think it is the best way for me to live a good life.
Everything will be meaningless one day. My sex, your prayers and Kata’s laptop. So what? Should we stop doing anything then?
Look, I think the whole problem here is that you probably believe in some kind of afterlife, and that for you this life here is only a kind of a test, as I already said. Maybe with your angry words you are just trying to help me pass this test. Well, I must admit that I am almost sure that this life here on earth, these 50-60 years on our planet is all there will be for me. So I better live it the best I can, trying to enjoy it to the maximum hurting the minimum amount of people. And trying to regret as little as possible when I will be old, gray and wrinkled, as somebody said here earlier. I already said I hardly ever regret sleeping with a girl. However, the occasions on which I finally stopped myself from sleeping with somebody are still haunting me…
It’s your problem if you don’t live in a happy way, but please do not missionate and try to “help” and change me. Nor Kata, who makes the effort of answering to you in a reasonable way, nor anyone else who doesn’t happen to think the way you do. After all, if hell exists, we will be taken care soon, won’t we?
“OH yeah Kata, why do you support guys like gabba and hate me? Gabba, uses women for s_e_x and disregards their souls.”
Why don’t you let this rethorical question be the first step towards understanding what is wrong in your way of thinking, and what probably makes girls, even the faithful conservative religious ones, avoid you (while I search for Kata in Budapest and try to seduce her with some philosophical discussions and a couple of jokes about this all in a ruin bar?
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Often the best way to win and argument is simply be peace and love.
All I know is I met the princess of my dreams, and I do not even go to work, but work at home and we spend 24/7 together now for a number of years. I wish everyone can have such happiness.
Usually in your 20s it is an extended adolescence and many people make a lot of mistakes. I guess I hope that people do not get too reckless and cheat themselves out of their own potential for happiness in love.
When I started to be loyal to my ideals the world around be changed and it opened the possibility to something greater.
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The way Yonathan is talking about us, Hungarian girls makes me wonder: did he probably get rejected by a Hungarian girl and he could not move on the fact? Sorry, but for me it’s unbelievable how agressively you judging us, Hungarian girls.
(and I’m sure that now Im gonna get a “nice” comment from him, but I dont care).
Also, the admin is obviously Polish fan, you can write whatever in his blog, you wont change his mind.
In another post he even suggested that Polish language is the most unique language and should be learnt instead of Spanish, German, Italian or French.
And Im sorry to say, but where I live (I lived in 2 different countries in South of Europe) they say that Polish girls are the worse from all over Europe. To be honest, I met a few Polish girls and I was not very impressed, also, one of my flatmate was a Polish guy, who just left one day, not paying any bills, so my other flatmate and I had cover his part for few months) How nice.
I know admin, its your blog and you can write whatever you want here, but as a Hungarian girl, I have to tell you that 1. you are wrong, 2. you stating facts without any real experience.
I just came back from South-Italy (where they supposed to keep the traditions and family is the first). Well, I could tell you different stories. How many guys (younger, older) that have wifes tried on us, girls, and it was such a disgusting thing to realize that they actually go back to their woman, but they would cheat on them at any second.
So these are my facts about the South…
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Shalom To All..
Well, it seems that you all want to team up on me.. Not a surprise, considering that the people here who vehemently disagree with me or a childless feminist and an adulterer.
Gabba, you say maybe one day you want to have a child and a wife? Maybe, of course… Let me ask you, what do you think your child will think of your promiscuous lifestyle and if she asks you one day, what will you tell her? How will you feel in your heart when your children grow up knowing the kind of life their father lives. And, since you loving experimenting with so many different women, perhaps you will grow bored of the one wife you are bound to for life and beyond! There is a high rate of infidelity these days and it probably is because too many people love indulging in s_x, rather then using the act of S_x for its pure intention, to create children and bond a husband and wife together in love.
H_roine is more thrilling then s_x and has worse consequences. Heroine is physically destructive, as well as emotionally. However, S_x is mostly emotionally and spiritually destructive. You become insensitive to love and lose appreciation of the deeper meaning of what the act holds. Also, s_x like h_roine, releases endorphins into your body that can become physically addictive. Just like with too much food, coffee, cigarettes, your body can form a dependency and it falls into an unnatural state.
Think about what you are doing.. You will not be young forever. One day you will have to answer for your sins.. I pray to God that you can open your eyes. If you don’t believe in God, then think about truth and justice. Would you want your child growing up sleeping around with boys/girls, being unwed?
To Bee.. I don’t h_te you at all. You have every right to share your opinion and I respect that. Just don’t be mad if I feel so obliged to share my own opinion. The only Hungarian women with whom I have been rejected, are the ones I have spoken to on this thread. I have not met any Hungarian women in person.. Considering how strong-headed, rude, femin_zish and degrading the Hungarian women have been on this thread, I don’t think I really ever desire to meet or have a relationship with a Hungarian woman.
Instead of proving your morals, kindness and any misunderstanding me and Mark may have had about you, you instead become defensive, abusive and even worse, proudly promote your sinful, lustful, childless and feminist lifestyles. Look at many of the women on the other threads, you will see they have more manners and not so defensive and proud like the women on the Hungarian thread.
Bee, once again, I think I might agree with some of your observations. It is true, morals in Italy leave a lot to be desired. Italian, as well as all latin men, do have second wives (girlfriends) on the side. Cheating/Flirting in these cultures don’t have the same scrutiny as they do in the USA. Also, many Italian men are flirts, and a more reserved European may mistake their behavior as trying to get them into bed, which is not the case.
However, there is still a large religious community in Italy and other Catholic/Orthodox countries in Europe that hold very strong to religious values. And, even though some Italian men may cheat, they will stick behind their families and not divorce. They will raise their children and not run away, depending on social services and government to raise the kind, like so many German, Nordic people do. German, Nordic and Hungarian people probably have more affairs, but these fall under the terms of marriage/remarriage/divorce and so many people never marry, but just live together and have multiple partners.
As far as
Oh yes, go ahead and hate me and blame me for how condescending and cruel I am! Of course, the multitude of criticism and insults given by all of you should go unpunished. Why? Because I am an outdated, religious man who was rejected by Hungarian women (LOL). So you say, of course!!
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I think you are saying there is good and bad in all countries so it is not about the country and especially not about a people as a whole, as much as social trends in parts of the world that try to redefine notions of morality and the family which is contrary to common sense, natural law or divine law.
These trends are manifest in sociological statistics.
Being old fashion in many parts of the work is being normal. Being modern in terms of morals in many ways can be seen as old fashion if you consider how the ancient Romans lived.
So these terms like old fashion or modern, connected with morality are really relative.
As always thanks for the comments, just try not to direct a comment a person but more theory of the ideals. For example, I think feminism in the extreme forms it takes today is causing people to be unhappy.
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I agree that the morals in the west have declined to such a point that it has caused a general unhappiness. I think the women are the ones that suffer the most. Children and women. I think this all started with a post enlightenment bias on the individual.
I personally love to look at these trend and even talk about them and my ideals of love. But I have no illusions that these can be reversed. Maybe they will. I just recommend that individuals do not believe some of the things they have learned about morality and consider these things themselves. But Yonatan there is no way I can convince people. If I push, or judge, People only become entrenched and feelings get hurt and defense mechanisms kick in and blind them to the reality of it. Maybe I am wrong.
But the worse way thing is to engage in trench warefare.
Think about how polarized politics are in the USA. It has only got worse and worse and I try not to tune in as much.
Better is to peaceful live your life and set yourself out there as an example, so people are like, I want some of that peace and love and happiness. Then they start asking how did you get that?
I mean I agree with you feminism has largely destroyed American society when it comes to the family.
But the best way to defeat this is live and be the change you want to see in the world.
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Yonatan you are an idealistic guy. Of course I am also. The problem is when you have ideals people will try to bring you down to their level. I often get brought into such debates.
In any debate the best way is to take the higher moral ground and not get sucked into the nonsense.
To Kata..
You seem to somehow think because a sinful country like Germany has a love parade, somehow its ok that Budapest has a love parade??? BTW, the love parade in Germany is way more tame compared to your Hungarian love parade!! The 99% n_ked girls are not present at the Germany love parade in the high numbers as your Hungarian parade. Here’s a question, did the people at Germany love parade have the d_v_i_l horns that you wear at Hungarian parade?
I am not aware about a love parade in NYC. But New York City is hardly the epitome of morality! Wasn’t that the city where Midnight Cowboy was filmed? LOLOL
America and Germany are not indicative of a moral wholesome society. I am not saying Hungary is actually better or worse than these countries, morals-wise. However, your love parade is nothing less than sickening. It really outdoes all the parades I have seen in moral deviance of anywhere in the world. The only exception may be the San Francisco gay pride parade.
However, if the people there started showing off body parts or engaging in public s_x_ual acts, like in your Hungarian parade, you can be sure the cops would show up and start ticketing and arresting people. Indecent exposure is a crime here. Yes, even in San Francisco!
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Yonatan: “Shalom” this reminds me for Israel. it is one of my favourite places I’ve ever been. I’ve been there 8 years ago. I’ve learned a lot there about people, and how the conflict begins between people. But that is a country where women are considered more equals than any other countries.They have a lot of rights, and they have to be soliders also. There are young girls with big guns on the streets! And (average, non conservative religious )young girls in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem are more loud, agressive and undressed than I’ve ever seen in Budapest.
Love parade: in Hungarian culture Santa claus has a helper, called “Krampusz”, and he is wearing devil horns also. Children like him very much. So what? It has nothing to do with religion or God.
Anyway I am here on this forum with peace, but I am always on the side of justice, especially if someone talks about my people like the admin and Yonatan did. You can say anything wrong about me, my life, my picture about myself will not change. But I can’t stand if someone is unfair.
Yes, you say i am bad, because I don’t have children. Of course it is easy for you to judge me personally. Especially for having no children. Yes I am a femina*zi haha….Well,the truth is that I can’t give life for children, because I had a tragical accident when I was younger. But you are coming here and saying I am bad, selfish etc.(yes me! personally and you admin didn’t censored Yonatan’s comments, just my comments when I wrote that he has sick visions) because I don’t have 3-4 children. Maybe one day I will adopt children, because I have a place in my heart for everyone who suffers. But it is my business and not yours gentlemen! And I’m not bragging about my suffers like you did.
So before you say something about a culture, a country, a person or anything you should check all sides and deeper reasons. Anyway I still say that everyone finds what he is looking for. We didn’t have love parades (it is actually called Budapest Parade), and we don’t sell cheap girls under Yonatan’s windows. If you admin and he only know this about my country, sorry. We have a lot more.
Gabba: Ok, come and find me.:) But I’m still a conservative girl so just one coffee …:)
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For Yonatan: Berliner Love Parade compared to Budapest Parade was more… everything. Your information is not correct. You shouldn’t h-ate Hungarians so much to be so blind for obvious facts.
youtube.com/watch?v=5hz3Gdqmcmw&feature=related
youtube.com/watch?v=fN0c9EmCCzc&feature=related
youtube.com/watch?v=RWw-BGIhJ_s&feature=related
I hope you will enjoy it
Sorry Mark, that you feel I have stooped to their level. I am very poor at flattering people and trying to mask or hide my inner feelings. It is true that I can be very outspoken and a bit aggressive in my rebuke, but I feel that most people try to whitewash all the wrongdoings that are committed and basically turn a blind eye to the problems we are facing. I am not afraid to confront my enemies and those who make war with God. Yes, I am idealistic and zealous. The bible says he who speaks the truth will be hated and rejected by the world. Apostle Paul wrote that we are treated like scum of the Earth, the refuse of the world. If you read the bible, King Yahushua (Jesus) was not also quite frank and direct with people, which resulted in him being almost attacked many times.
I guess I was not on here trying to make friends. As far as changing Gabba , Kata or any of the various Hungarian feminists who posted here, I didn’t really feel they had anything in their hearts to change. Rather I wanted to confront them with the sins of their society, just as I confront Americans the same.
To Kata:
I am sorry Kata you cannot have children. That is heartbreaking for me to hear. Well, perhaps I was a bit confused, because you were talking about you are a feminist and that you cannot have a family because of your job. You never mentioned that you were infertile. In this regard, I will say I feel quite bad for you. The other Hungarian women who came on this thread were ranting about how “liberated” and “s_e_xually free” they are. So, you can see how I may have jumped to conclusions prematurely.
Being in Africa, I can tell you, there are many children who need parents. I was working with orphans everyday and it’s shocking to see how many unloved children there are that need a home. I am sure, even in your native Hungary, there are many children who need a good loving mother. In the Western world, these days, so many children do not even have a real mother, because the mother spends all day at work and the child is raised in a daycare center by a stranger.
I really pray you can be a great mother and wife one day and that your husband and children will give praise to you.
You are right Kata.. The secular Israeli girls are about as bad as they come.. I cannot even stand secular Israeli girls, that is one reason I have chosen to stay celibate. The Orthodox Jewish girls are completely different race of people. They are modest, humble , virtuous. Many of them will average about 8 children per household. There are two Israels, the socialist European Israel and the traditional religious Jewish Israel.
Being a Jew, we are very nationalistic and care a lot about our heritage. But, let me humbly admit, I think the Tel Aviv Gay Pride Parade is actually quite a bit more evil than your Budapest Love Parade. It is quite a shame that in God’s Own Land, Eretz Yisrael, that such abominations and atrocities are being committed. You see Katta, I am not afraid to condemn my own people and my own heritage. I have no pride. So, please understand this is not against you personally, when I condemn Hungary.
My feeling is the secular, non-religious JEws will be destroyed or die out and that Elohim God will turn Yisrael into a Messianic nation ruled by religious Orthodox Messianic Jews, like myself, who will control the land and govern it by righteousness and integrity, as it was in the days of King David. Yahushua Ha Moshiach will come and the Mishkan (Temple) in Yerushalayim will be restored. We will reign in Yerushalayim with Yahushua for 1000 years before the Ascention to The New Heavenly Yerushalayim.
About Gabba, Kata, I think he is interested in more than just coffee. Coffee and some bogus conversation are a precursor to something more carnal. Why do men like Gabba act like they love women, but just use them for S_e_x, dump them and go the next woman?? Even he, himself, said he has nightmares from having to get out of relationships with women. It sounds like not all the women appreciate be used and dumped. Men like Gabba attract females in the modern world. However, men like Gabba, also leave females as single mothers. These females then go on to say how bad men are and how they don’t care about their families. You reap what you sow! Enjoy your coffee.
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USA, Germany, Modern Secular Israel and Hungary are on their ways to the Gehinnom Olam. That is my personal opinion. Many will disagree and say God cares nothing all the s_e_xual and moral deviance, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
I just watched parts of the videos you sent Katta and I still feel from watching these Berlin love parade videos are much more tame than the Budapest love parade videos I saw. Where are all the naked girls and d_e_v_il horns? The German is just bunch of people dancing, some women in bikinis. Not as lewd as the Hungarian one.
On another note, I will confirm Israel’s gay parades are equal or worse than the Hungarian parade. They are even worse, because they promote homosexuality, which is an even greater abomination.
I wouldn’t doubt one day if Israel falls into civil war, because the religious and secular Jews utterly hate each other and live a much different life. The numbers of religious Jews are increasing rapidly, because of many children. The numbers of secular, non-religious Jews are decreasing, because most of these women end up working and not having children.
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Yonatan: Don’t feel sorry about me. I will live a happy life.And I will have children and family someday,and I will love them as much as a real mother. But not now. The time will come for that. I told you what happened with me not because I wanted you to feel sorry about me, but because I wanted to show you how many reasons a girl can have for not having children and family. My reasons are sad, but there are many other reasons, that we must accept, and don’t have the right for judgement. (and for most of my friends the reasons are financial reasons, and they have many fears of future) I’ve never told you that I am a feminist. It was your prejudice about me.Prejudice is always harmful for human relationships. That’s why I tried to explain my and some other Hungarian girl’s points about present,carreer, future and children. Maybe sometimes I was not really nice, but sorry this is the “heat” of the argument. I didn’t like your comments, but as for a person I wish you Yonatan, admin and others a long peaceful and happy life.
Anyway I hope that the future will be brighter than you see, and all the nations you mentioned will not die.:) As I see people will be very mixed in the future, without any differences in skin colour culture or lifestyle. I think it is good and bad at the same time.
About Love Parade: I think you would find naked women and devil horns on some related videos, as you see there were so many people on that Parade. But I had no time to find videos of naked people, devils and angels in a good quality.
About Gabba: I hope he would give me a choice to have s-x or not….
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Kata,
I believe the evil people will perish and people of every race, color, ethnicity, tribe, etc will come to the Holy Mountain of Elohim God to worship. It is not about race or color, it is about the heart and character of each human soul. People who live a sinful lifestyle and disregard the teachings of God will perish. They will die in their sins. It is inevitable.
But, I do pray that these people can make teshuva (repentance) and be cleansed of the wrongdoings. It only breaks my heart to see so many people suffer as they do. These people who are indulging in the pleasures of this world and dismissing the power and authority of El Shaddai (God Almighty) will soon realize they have no joy left in their life. Never again wil they have pleasure. The wages of sin is death, the Gift of God, is eternal life, in Yahushua Ha Moshiach (Jesus The CHristos)
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Waav, this is one long discussion that I would not like to get involved. However, it is hard to understand how an average salary can be 500 Dollar a month in a country where per capita GDP is 15.000 Dollar? Surely there is someone in Hungary making very good money! Who is making that much money? Germans living in Hungary? What is the point of being an EU member state, if it does nothing to the welfare of local people other than increased prices? I think we should be lucky that European Officials keeps Turkey outside the union
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And if you factor in the purchasing power index, people in Hungary are not that poor. I think Budapest is pretty close to disqualifying soon for EU money as it is close to the EU average in terms of wealth. The EU sets a percentage of the average. For example, across the boarder Prague is at 107% the average, I think.
Yonatan:
“Even he ((gabba)), himself, said he has nightmares from having to get out of relationships with women.”
I offer a one year subscription to Budapest Opera to anyone who will find this in any of my posts.
“Think about what you are doing.. You will not be young forever. One day you will have to answer for your sins.. I pray to God that you can open your eyes. If you don’t believe in God, then think about truth and justice. Would you want your child growing up sleeping around with boys/girls, being unwed?”
I do not commit any sin. Sleeping with a girl is something beautiful, for both of us.
I would not mind at all if my children behaved in the same way. Neither if they would prefer having their “princess”, like Admin, that’s very sweet.
Then I would really know I have done something fundamentally wrong…
I would only worry if I see them scared of naked people or – worst of all – devil’s horns!
“However, men like Gabba, also leave females as single mothers.”
Through the condoms I use and against the contraceptive pills most of the girls use? It’s who again who condemns birth control?
You know, Kata, unfortunately I leave Hungary tomorrow for…. the US! It is the first time I will be there, and after a wonderful time in Budapest and surroundings, I hope I will not run into a lot of Yonatans… because in my opinion he is not a “man with ideals”, he plainly is a bad person. Admin, you are a friendly and peaceful man, so why do you always protect him? The way I see the world, we should classify people into friendly&respectful and aggressive&intolerant instead of “believing the same as me” and “not believing the same as me”. Then you would have protected Kata from the beginning, I think…
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I am bad person in your eyes.. I sure hope you don’t meet a man like me in the USA.. That is for sure.. Take your wild and lustful lifestyle somewhere else. As if USA doesn’t have enough teen pregnancies, single mothers and
ANyhow God will judge both of us. I spent a lot of my life helping others. Besides, being so promiscuous and sleeping around with girls, I wonder what type of good things you have done in your life. You label me as evil and you don’t even know anything about me except that I disapprove of your evil and selfish lifestyle. I believe pre-martial s_e_x is a sin against God and I pray for your own good you repent. You can insult me, saying how evil I am, that is fine.
God judges all people on the final day. He will judge both of us. I will not pass any final judgment on you. It is my great hope, Gabba, that you will open your eyes and realize what you have done. I also think you are a liar about your children. I am yet to meet many parents who are proud of their child, especially their daughters from going around and sleeping with people for recreation.
Gabba, here is a question, if you got one of those girls pregnant because your condom broke, would you pay to have them abort the child? Ask admin what he thinks about your use of contraception and extramarital sex relationships. Well, maybe he won’t give an honest answer here, but I know his heart.
I will bow out of the fight.. I knew I would be condemned. I know Mark doesn’t like that I engage in a debate. Although, I wonder, what is point of forums if it is all kissy-kissy? However, I would respect Mark’s wishes if he feels I have crossed the line, which I probably have. I can just keep my mouth shut while you all promote your feminist and loose-s_e_x_ual ideals. Religious people are always hated and should just keep silent.
In our scriptures it says:
Seek the truth and the truth will set you free.
When the blind lead the blind, both fall in the pit. It is sad that everyone here has eyes but cannot see and ears and cannot heart. You have hearts but cannot appreciate the beauty of life, but rather the carnal urges of your flesh.
Gabba, you can hope that Mark hates me all you want. I think Mark is a good and genuine person. He is a man of honor and respect. Regardless of what Mark thinks of me, I respect him for how he lives his life. I hope Mark won’t side with people like you. Because people like you actually go against the purpose of this website, which is to find a loving girl to marry and form a family with. You are the anti-thesis of this website. Basically, people like you and the other feminists here are the reason a website like this was ever invented.
On the contrary, you are promoting the self-destructive, loathsome and anti-family lifestyle that is propagating the downfall of society. High divorce rates, single family homes, STDS, ab_rtions, homos_xuality, dr_g addiction, suicide are all a result that is spawned from the lifestyle of recreational s_x, drugs and drunkenness.
Where would you be without condoms, birth control pills, abortion clinics and all the other unnatural devices you use that allow you to go against the natural cycle of life?
Many Catholics, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus and Jews will agree with me that this is the lifestyle that leads to chaos and disorder. It is like the Enigma song, the Rivers of Belief. Walk the path to the rivers of belief. The Spiritual path is the way to happiness, a good family and perpetual joy. This path of carnality and lust will result in destruction, sorrow and pain.
I pray for the souls of all the women and girls that chose to lose their virginity to sleep with a man who did not want to father her children. And I pray for all the men who has slept with a woman who did not want to mother the child of that man, also who may have lost their virginity. How sad..
The final is my Sukkot prayers.. Happy Sukkot to everyone.
Chag Sameach!
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Funny statistic:
Use of the word “hate” on page 6 of this debate:
Kata 0
Gabba 0
Yonatan 10
Admin 0
Bee 0
Osman 0
This is my last post here , because I have to move on and this is not going anywhere:
Use of the word love, care and pray for you:
Yonatan Over 10 times
Kata 0
Gabba 0
Bee 0
It seems the only one full of hate here is you.. But once again, I pray for you gabba. I love you, but I do hate the evil demon that has coerced you to do wrong and engage in s_xual sin. I know you can be a wonderful and kind person, but right now you are blinded by the spirit of darkness. Maybe you are kind and caring in many ways, but when you contaminate a healthy body with even a small drop of lethal poison, the whole body will soon perish.
A long time ago, I also was blinded by a demonic spirit. When I gave my heart to King Yahushua (Jesus) I was freed of all this and found the path to salvation, happiness and love.
If you notice, I have also used the word love many more times than anyone here..
Y’varuch Adonai v’yishm’rekha
May God bless you and keep you!
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So in case you wonder why Admin wants you to calm down, I remind you that he has opened a forum about love, and not about hate, so some “kissy-kissy” wouldnt hurt!
I agree with you, though, when you say that I am the anti-thesis of this website, because I am not (yet) searching my one and only princess. That is why I will, too, slowly bow away, like you. (As I already said, I think it is very sweet to see how Admin cherishes his woman, and I cannot rule out that one day I will fall in love with one of the women I meet and choose to stay only with her.)
But before we stop this debate I still have to clarify something that is very important to me. For this I will show some more serious statistics:
Yonatan accuses me and my kind of being responsible for teen pregnancies and abortion.
1) In my own experience, condom breaking happened in about 0.2% of the cases. This means about once in 250 times. In the last five years I have never had such a case (I guess I found out what went wrong. Talk about power of education and knowledge…)
2) A broken condom is still better for contraception than no condom.
3) Most girls in my country take the pill. This surely doesnt only have positive sides, but it is a fact I cannot change.
4) Moreover I rarely sleep with teenagers, and never with underage girls.
These four facts together show that it is extremely improbable that I will make a teenager pregnant. You knew most of these facts, so what you said is just plainly dumb. Admit this and take it back or counter my reasoning, please.
On the other hand I will agree with you on one thing for a change:
Men who have sex with many women without contraception and protection methods have to condemned.
I think that if you get to the point of deciding whether to abort or not, you have already lost… I do not like abortion, of course (who does?!), but I think it should be legal, at least in the early stages of pregnancy.
I talked before, somehow jokingly, about the power of education and knowledge. Well, that is where something is going fundamentally wrong in the US, as the following statistic will show you:
Rate of teen birth in my country: below 5 per 1000
Rate of teen birth in your country (US): 53 per 1000
Is it because we evil Europeans abort and you loving Americans give birth? Nope, the abortion rate in the US is above the one in my country.
I won’t search up the teen STD statistics, but it will show the same trend.
This shows that you, Yonatan, are well aware of a big problem of American society. As you see, it is much less the problem of Europe.
The thing is that you mistake the cause. If all people were like me, the percentage of teen birth would be even lower in my country than it is now, very near zero. Because I do not want to make a teen girl pregnant, and because I KNOW how to manage this!!
You REALLY should read the following article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/15/AR2006051500809.html
As illogical as it may sound, it seems that Yonatan’s “sex is evil” leads to teen pregnancy, teen abortion, teen STDs, teen confusion and teen unhappiness. I am sure this is not what you want, Yonatan, but please consider the facts…
It is not my lifestyle that leads to chaos and disorder.
And just to close open ends:
- I judge you by what you say/write
- Having sex occupies about two to three hours of my week. There is still plenty of time for doing good.
- My mother knows about my way of life. It’s ok for her. She tells me this would have been impossible 30 years ago and thinks it is better now because there is more freedom and tolerance.
- I obviously do not believe in any God, but if he exists and is benevolent, do you really think he would consider sex a sin, and would approve your philosophy? Actually I would like to be wrong and hear his final judgement over my life.
- I like the concept of “pre-martial sex”
- I think I will unpack my devil’s horns for the US trip
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Kata said: “do you think being a lesbian is a modern feminist thing?”
). It all started with the Enlightment (the slightly retarde movement that posed the human brain as a supercomputer, a ultimate key to with no limitations that solves any problem. Hahahaha! What a nice joke isn’t it) all continued with liberalism and with marxism (probably the most cruelly brutal and evil force ever) and job finsished by nowdays individualism.
Bollocks! Noone said that. It is the promotion of gay culture if there’s anything modern about it, but not the thing itself. Deviation from normal is what’s propagated on a large scale, at a mainstream state and media level. Family life and marriage is portrayed as uncool, unfancy thing to do, somewhat oldfashioned. Staying single is encoureged by the Cosmopolitan, or any other stupid magazins written for cretins. Stayin’ single is deemed cool. Being gay is cool. Everything is cool except one thing: being a straight white middle-lass male, let alone being a Christian one. Even being a women is considered to be an “achievment” on it’s own merit: hahaha! Do you remember the tv ad: loreal, because you deserve it. No dear m’am, you dont’t deserve it by default. You have to make efforts first to deserve anything: like respect, money, or love. The message is wrong. And that’s why the whole world went crap in 2007, because everyone thought they deserve it (i mean to continue the massive rate of their consumtion) whithout having the money for it.
They thought they desreve the trip to Mallorca even when they lack the funds for it. No, dear MASS. You dont deserve anything. And you’re not at all special. Neither are you Magyar girls.
Just look at the rant of stupid Steven Fry against the Pope. It’s so pathetic. The alleged great “liberal” “tolerant” guy, basically publicly incited hatrad and discrimination against the 6 million (10%) catholics by his cripto-marxist protest campain. Despicable. and the whole bloody PC media is behind him, becasue it’s fine to depreciate and smear traditional European culture of the West.
And everything is cherished and supported what is not like that. What is a deviancy, what is abnormal. American indivudualism is like an epidemic scoffing up everything, spreading quickly like Spanish flu after the first w war.
If you read Ortega Y Gasset’s famous work, which he wrote in the twenties (!): “The revolt of the masses”. In which he spells out the way ordinary people view themselfes as “SPECIAL”. Just whatch X-Factor with the stupid narcissistic chavs with no brain, and total lack of any trace of talent, but with huge ego and selfconfidence: and in the end when they are being told by the jury that they were rubbish many burst in tears. Because seemingly they’re completely unaware how stupid they are. So the first time anyone faces them with the truth the revalation is so shocking that they can’t cope with it.
But above all what I wanted to point out here is there’s something went fundamentally wrong with people’s mentality: the masses’ mentality over the last hundred years at least: they are not at all special. Indeed, simply ‘cos you’re a women that won’t make you special, wonderful even intersetin.
No, mr spotwriter (sorry I can’t remember your name) you are too optimistic about restoring old values and the prestige of family. It’s all gone (with the wind
Have you read Oswald Spengler’s great work? I know you like pholosophie. It’s “The decline of the West”. It was also written in the twenties. He basically compairs different human civilisations to come to the final conclusion of his thesis that their lifecicles show simularities to that of hunam being’s. On a way longer timescale obviously. He also had found the Western (ours) in the sclerotic (very old) stage heading to it’s imminent demise (death). Then after some (few centuries) interregnum (anarchy) a new civilasiton will have to emerge that wipes out the old completely.
(Gabba, you’re Hungarian aren’t you? But certainly not Western European, am I right?)
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