Comments on: The hardest language to learn http://claritaslux.com/blog/the-hardest-language-to-learn/ Learning, languages, EU, citizenship Sat, 11 Feb 2012 12:11:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: geeez http://claritaslux.com/blog/the-hardest-language-to-learn/comment-page-11/#comment-64560 geeez Sat, 28 Jan 2012 10:28:23 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/2007/04/22/the-hardest-language-to-learn/#comment-64560 I got ahold of a commercial book (you can't buy it from Amazon) for Mandarin Chinese / Portuguese that uses a similar methodology as the FSI books. I studied a few lessons, and paid to practice online. But then I started reading about China and how they execute people for small things and said "uhh oh... I'll study a different language.." I'm no criminal, but some things there just scare me. I got ahold of a commercial book (you can’t buy it from Amazon) for Mandarin Chinese / Portuguese that uses a similar methodology as the FSI books. I studied a few lessons, and paid to practice online. But then I started reading about China and how they execute people for small things and said “uhh oh… I’ll study a different language..” I’m no criminal, but some things there just scare me.

]]> By: Mark Biernat http://claritaslux.com/blog/the-hardest-language-to-learn/comment-page-11/#comment-64555 Mark Biernat Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:12:06 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/2007/04/22/the-hardest-language-to-learn/#comment-64555 I personally know Asian language teachers who say Asian languages are hard only because of the writing and reading and this is why they get that reputation but the speaking and understanding is fairly easy. One guy I know teaches Chinese in NYC to non Chinese people, it is only the writing that is hard but writing is not 'speaking a language'. I personally know Asian language teachers who say Asian languages are hard only because of the writing and reading and this is why they get that reputation but the speaking and understanding is fairly easy. One guy I know teaches Chinese in NYC to non Chinese people, it is only the writing that is hard but writing is not ‘speaking a language’.

]]> By: geeez http://claritaslux.com/blog/the-hardest-language-to-learn/comment-page-11/#comment-64554 geeez Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:51:22 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/2007/04/22/the-hardest-language-to-learn/#comment-64554 Mark, I don't know if someone has already mentioned it, but the US Gov/military/defense language institute claim that Korean is the hardest for a native English speaker. But based on your example with Polish, it looks extremely difficult!! Mark, I don’t know if someone has already mentioned it, but the US Gov/military/defense language institute claim that Korean is the hardest for a native English speaker.

But based on your example with Polish, it looks extremely difficult!!

]]> By: Mark Biernat http://claritaslux.com/blog/the-hardest-language-to-learn/comment-page-11/#comment-64548 Mark Biernat Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:13:17 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/2007/04/22/the-hardest-language-to-learn/#comment-64548 First speaking a language is really what language is about as for a 30,000 years of history 99% of mankind did not read or write. Think about it until the last century everyone spoke and used Japanese but few read it. So I think Wiki or whatever source you use did not put proper weights onto the important of aspects of the language (reading, writing, speaking, listening). Are you saying these are all equal? I think speaking and listening is speaking a language, while reading and writing is nice but not required and Japanese is hard in this aspect, but not critical for communication. While to speak it grammatically and with pronunciation it is not as hard as Finnish or Polish for example. First speaking a language is really what language is about as for a 30,000 years of history 99% of mankind did not read or write. Think about it until the last century everyone spoke and used Japanese but few read it. So I think Wiki or whatever source you use did not put proper weights onto the important of aspects of the language (reading, writing, speaking, listening). Are you saying these are all equal? I think speaking and listening is speaking a language, while reading and writing is nice but not required and Japanese is hard in this aspect, but not critical for communication. While to speak it grammatically and with pronunciation it is not as hard as Finnish or Polish for example.

]]> By: Jonatas http://claritaslux.com/blog/the-hardest-language-to-learn/comment-page-11/#comment-64547 Jonatas Thu, 26 Jan 2012 03:17:33 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/2007/04/22/the-hardest-language-to-learn/#comment-64547 According to the only objective source that I found, the five most difficult languages of 63 evaluated were Arabic, Cantonese, Mandarin, Japanese and Korean, taking about 2200 hours to learn to read and write. Japanese was ranked as the most difficult of these, so according to this source Japanese is the most difficult language of the 63, which probably includes Polish. I have been learning Japanese on and off for about 9 years and I think that it is an extremely difficult language, some say that it's easy, I think, to encourage new learners. According to the only objective source that I found, the five most difficult languages of 63 evaluated were Arabic, Cantonese, Mandarin, Japanese and Korean, taking about 2200 hours to learn to read and write. Japanese was ranked as the most difficult of these, so according to this source Japanese is the most difficult language of the 63, which probably includes Polish.

I have been learning Japanese on and off for about 9 years and I think that it is an extremely difficult language, some say that it’s easy, I think, to encourage new learners.

]]> By: Mark Biernat http://claritaslux.com/blog/the-hardest-language-to-learn/comment-page-11/#comment-64516 Mark Biernat Fri, 20 Jan 2012 00:47:44 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/2007/04/22/the-hardest-language-to-learn/#comment-64516 I sincerely appreciate this, in fact I might do a seperate article just on Finnish. I think it is a great land way up north and people do not know about how difficult the language is. It is amazing. I try to explain to my American friends about cases and rarely do they even know what it is. I sincerely appreciate this, in fact I might do a seperate article just on Finnish. I think it is a great land way up north and people do not know about how difficult the language is. It is amazing. I try to explain to my American friends about cases and rarely do they even know what it is.

]]> By: Mark Biernat http://claritaslux.com/blog/the-hardest-language-to-learn/comment-page-11/#comment-64515 Mark Biernat Fri, 20 Jan 2012 00:45:25 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/2007/04/22/the-hardest-language-to-learn/#comment-64515 I think Finish is a beautiful and crazy language grammatically. Pronunciation is easier than Polish but the grammar is like from another world. I think Finish is a beautiful and crazy language grammatically. Pronunciation is easier than Polish but the grammar is like from another world.

]]> By: A Finn http://claritaslux.com/blog/the-hardest-language-to-learn/comment-page-11/#comment-64512 A Finn Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:18:55 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/2007/04/22/the-hardest-language-to-learn/#comment-64512 NOW, THE NOUNS 1.1talo - house 1.2talot - houses 2.1talon - house's 2.2talojen - houses' 3.1taloa - (do something to) house 3.2taloja - (do something to) houses 4.1talosta - from house 4.2taloista - from houses 5.1talossa - in house 5.2taloissa - in houses 6.1taloon - to house 6.2taloihin - to houses 7.1talolla - on house 7.2taloilla - on houses 8.1talolta - from house 8.2taloilta - from house 9.1talolle - to house 9.2taloille - to houses 10.1taloksi - (to become) a house 10.2taloiksi - (to become) to houses 11.1talona - as a house 11.2taloina -a as houses 12.1talotta - without a house 12.2taloitta - without houses 13.1taloineni - with my houses 13.2taloinesi - with your houses 13.3taloineen - with her/its/his houses 13.4taloinemme - with our houses 13.5taloinenne with your (many peeple) houses 13.6taloinensa - with their houses 14.1taloin- taloin| no sensible examples but the word book/kirja Kirjoin on hyvä viihdyttää itseäsi!/With books it's good to entertain yourself! THIS FEELS HAAAARRRRDDD!!! Extras is adjectives kiva/nice kivempi/nicer kivoin/the nicest NOTICE! hyvä/good hyvempi/nonsense parempi/better hyvin/very parhain/the best numerals: NOTICEE! 1 yksi 1th ensimmäinen 2 kaksi 2th toinen and now it's regular 3 kolme kolmas 4 neljä neljäs 5 viisi viides and so on promines: I/Mä My/Mun Me/Mua/mut You/Sä Your/Sun You/Sua/Sut HE/SHE/IT/Se His/her/its/sen It/sitä WE/me Our/meidän Us/meitä YOU (MANY PEEPLE)/TE Your/Teidän You/Teitä THEY/NE Their/Niiden They/Niitä THIS/TÄMÄ THAT/TUO THERE/SIELLÄ HERE/TÄÄLLÄ KUKIN/EACH ONE KUKA/WHO KENEN/WHO'S THESE/NÄMÄ NUO/THAT (MANY THINGS) JOKA/which/that MIKÄ/what Se oli jotain sellaista, mitä en voinut hyväksyä It was something I couldnt approve KUMPI?/ WHICH ONE? MIKÄ/WHAT MIKÄÄN/NOTHING NOW, THE NOUNS

1.1talo – house
1.2talot – houses
2.1talon – house’s
2.2talojen – houses’
3.1taloa – (do something to) house
3.2taloja – (do something to) houses
4.1talosta – from house
4.2taloista – from houses
5.1talossa – in house
5.2taloissa – in houses
6.1taloon – to house
6.2taloihin – to houses
7.1talolla – on house
7.2taloilla – on houses
8.1talolta – from house
8.2taloilta – from house
9.1talolle – to house
9.2taloille – to houses
10.1taloksi – (to become) a house
10.2taloiksi – (to become) to houses
11.1talona – as a house
11.2taloina -a as houses
12.1talotta – without a house
12.2taloitta – without houses
13.1taloineni – with my houses
13.2taloinesi – with your houses
13.3taloineen – with her/its/his houses
13.4taloinemme – with our houses
13.5taloinenne with your (many peeple) houses
13.6taloinensa – with their houses
14.1taloin- taloin| no sensible examples but the word book/kirja
Kirjoin on hyvä viihdyttää itseäsi!/With books it’s good to entertain yourself!

THIS FEELS HAAAARRRRDDD!!!

Extras is adjectives

kiva/nice
kivempi/nicer
kivoin/the nicest

NOTICE!
hyvä/good
hyvempi/nonsense
parempi/better
hyvin/very
parhain/the best

numerals:
NOTICEE!
1 yksi 1th ensimmäinen
2 kaksi 2th toinen

and now it’s regular

3 kolme kolmas
4 neljä neljäs
5 viisi viides

and so on

promines:

I/Mä
My/Mun
Me/Mua/mut
You/Sä
Your/Sun
You/Sua/Sut
HE/SHE/IT/Se
His/her/its/sen
It/sitä
WE/me
Our/meidän
Us/meitä
YOU (MANY PEEPLE)/TE
Your/Teidän
You/Teitä
THEY/NE
Their/Niiden
They/Niitä

THIS/TÄMÄ
THAT/TUO
THERE/SIELLÄ
HERE/TÄÄLLÄ
KUKIN/EACH ONE
KUKA/WHO
KENEN/WHO’S
THESE/NÄMÄ
NUO/THAT (MANY THINGS)
JOKA/which/that
MIKÄ/what
Se oli jotain sellaista, mitä en voinut hyväksyä
It was something I couldnt approve

KUMPI?/ WHICH ONE?
MIKÄ/WHAT
MIKÄÄN/NOTHING

]]> By: A Finn http://claritaslux.com/blog/the-hardest-language-to-learn/comment-page-11/#comment-64511 A Finn Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:53:44 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/2007/04/22/the-hardest-language-to-learn/#comment-64511 this -nee thing (X would do Y) in usually unused but sometimes people talk it. So finnish have no future! /Suomella ei ole tulevaisuutta. Go to google translator and write something to finnish and listen to it and try to repeat it! You know almost, almost how is it pronounced! The melody it just a little little bit wrong and computer have not breaks unlike Fins. This is not spam, I'm telling how Finnish works. this -nee thing (X would do Y) in usually unused but sometimes people talk it. So finnish have no future! /Suomella ei ole tulevaisuutta.

Go to google translator and write something to finnish and listen to it and try to repeat it! You know almost, almost how is it pronounced! The melody it just a little little bit wrong and computer have not breaks unlike Fins.

This is not spam, I’m telling how Finnish works.

]]> By: A Finn http://claritaslux.com/blog/the-hardest-language-to-learn/comment-page-11/#comment-64510 A Finn Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:49:01 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/2007/04/22/the-hardest-language-to-learn/#comment-64510 Im a finn, and it is SO nice to know that Finnish is the hardest langwige in the wearld being learned. That would be hard to understand for English people: tili - account tiili - brick They just cant realize there are TWO VOCALS, never herd of it! Same in English! is - wun vocal least - two vocals but how they understand this? two NOUNCS! like kuka - who kukka - flower WTF! KUK/KA it is pronouncing, just trying to continue the letter for a bit! and ä and ö extra letters 1.ä is a in and 2.ö is like e in fur (without r, of course) abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzåäö what about the verb spelling!yeah! I eat - Mä syön You eat - Sä syöt He/She/It eats - Se syö We eat - Me syömme You eat (many peeple) - Te syötte They eat - Ne syö 3x past forms 1 would-forms eg. söisin - I would eat 1 future/maybe-form syönee - Will maybe eat and for all they have just eat afterposition -ko or -kö does it eat / syökö there were verbs. Would you want to now of the nomines (nouns, nummerals, adjectives, pronomines) PS. I spelled wrong because it was just and this cases work too! Im a finn, and
it is SO nice to know that Finnish is the hardest langwige in the wearld being learned.
That would be hard to understand for English people:

tili – account
tiili – brick

They just cant realize there are TWO VOCALS, never herd of it!
Same in English!
is – wun vocal
least – two vocals

but how they understand this?

two NOUNCS! like
kuka – who
kukka – flower
WTF! KUK/KA it is pronouncing, just trying to continue the letter for a bit!

and
ä and ö extra letters
1.ä is a in and
2.ö is like e in fur (without r, of course)

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzåäö

what about the verb spelling!yeah!

I eat – Mä syön
You eat – Sä syöt
He/She/It eats – Se syö
We eat – Me syömme
You eat (many peeple) – Te syötte
They eat – Ne syö

3x past forms
1 would-forms
eg. söisin – I would eat
1 future/maybe-form
syönee – Will maybe eat

and for all they have just eat afterposition

-ko or -kö

does it eat / syökö

there were verbs. Would you want to now of the nomines (nouns, nummerals, adjectives, pronomines)

PS. I spelled wrong because it was just and this cases work too!

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