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		<title>By: Mark Biernat</title>
		<link>http://claritaslux.com/blog/russian-language-in-ukraine/comment-page-1/#comment-63863</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Biernat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Eastern Europe and my family is from Ukraine. I disagree. Your spelling of Lviv tells me you do not know as much as you think. It is Lviv not the Imperial spelling of Lvov.
The entire West from Ternopil on speaks Ukrainian and Russian is fading as Ukrainians I know do not even know Russian.  I mean the Russians tried to make the Poles speak Russian as it was once part of the empire and no one speaks it today except if they want to. 
Ukrainian is gaining in numbers and Russia is demographcially declining.  Look at the birth stats, that alone will shift things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Eastern Europe and my family is from Ukraine. I disagree. Your spelling of Lviv tells me you do not know as much as you think. It is Lviv not the Imperial spelling of Lvov.<br />
The entire West from Ternopil on speaks Ukrainian and Russian is fading as Ukrainians I know do not even know Russian.  I mean the Russians tried to make the Poles speak Russian as it was once part of the empire and no one speaks it today except if they want to.<br />
Ukrainian is gaining in numbers and Russia is demographcially declining.  Look at the birth stats, that alone will shift things.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Orlof Smith</title>
		<link>http://claritaslux.com/blog/russian-language-in-ukraine/comment-page-1/#comment-63862</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Orlof Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 22:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russian language is widely spoken in Ukraine except Lvov and some Kiev&#039;s universities also if you have to deal with some government issues sorry but this is true I have lived in Kiev also in Odessa for the last 20 years and because my work I have travelled almost mostly all over Ukraine and according my surveys in Ukraine 80% of ukrainian population speak russian and only 20% left ukrainian. My father was an american citizen and my mother was an ukrainian lady.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russian language is widely spoken in Ukraine except Lvov and some Kiev&#8217;s universities also if you have to deal with some government issues sorry but this is true I have lived in Kiev also in Odessa for the last 20 years and because my work I have travelled almost mostly all over Ukraine and according my surveys in Ukraine 80% of ukrainian population speak russian and only 20% left ukrainian. My father was an american citizen and my mother was an ukrainian lady.</p>
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		<title>By: bedniak</title>
		<link>http://claritaslux.com/blog/russian-language-in-ukraine/comment-page-1/#comment-62953</link>
		<dc:creator>bedniak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 08:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are not a nationalist ? Oh please ! Your anti Russian tirades speak for themsevles. Awful stuff and I am not an admirer of the oligarchs, Russian or Ukrainian.I have been to and travelled throughout Ukraine and, as a Russian speaker, I was surprised that almost everyone i encountered spoke Russian. That the lands east of the Dnpr and the Crimea were &quot;gifted&quot; to Ukraine means that Ukraine has a huge minority problem and this is complicated by the historical ties that Ukraine has with Russia which, whether you like it or not, is a fundamentally important part of your historical inheritance. You Ukrainian nationalsists will need to come to terms with it or it is pain all the way for you lot. Enjoy !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are not a nationalist ? Oh please ! Your anti Russian tirades speak for themsevles. Awful stuff and I am not an admirer of the oligarchs, Russian or Ukrainian.I have been to and travelled throughout Ukraine and, as a Russian speaker, I was surprised that almost everyone i encountered spoke Russian. That the lands east of the Dnpr and the Crimea were &#8220;gifted&#8221; to Ukraine means that Ukraine has a huge minority problem and this is complicated by the historical ties that Ukraine has with Russia which, whether you like it or not, is a fundamentally important part of your historical inheritance. You Ukrainian nationalsists will need to come to terms with it or it is pain all the way for you lot. Enjoy !</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Biernat</title>
		<link>http://claritaslux.com/blog/russian-language-in-ukraine/comment-page-1/#comment-61543</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Biernat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 14:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Wiki and any other sources Ukrainian is spoken by almost 80% of the people. 
Russian is taking over the Ukrainian gas company, stationing troops until 2045 on Russian soil etc. Basically Russian is playing an empire like it does all over the former Soviet bloc.
I do not understand why the people of Russian tolerate this. Russians are great and I really mean that. The Russian government is not for them, but for the oligarchy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Wiki and any other sources Ukrainian is spoken by almost 80% of the people.<br />
Russian is taking over the Ukrainian gas company, stationing troops until 2045 on Russian soil etc. Basically Russian is playing an empire like it does all over the former Soviet bloc.<br />
I do not understand why the people of Russian tolerate this. Russians are great and I really mean that. The Russian government is not for them, but for the oligarchy.</p>
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		<title>By: Vitali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vitali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 08:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is not really true. By far most people in Ukraine are Russian speaking. From experience I would have to estimate at least 60%. But also I do agree that Ukrainian should be the only official language. The mass use of Russian was brought into Ukraine artificially and for imperialistic reasons. Also if you know one of them the other is easy learn so it shouldn&#039;t be a problem. However, the problem is that many of the &quot;russian rights&quot; advocates are anti-Ukrainian and don&#039;t even recognize Ukrainian as legitimate language. Why should the government please these people? For the minority of the people who don&#039;t know how to speak Ukrainian, they need to learn it. I learned how to speak 3 different languages ( beside Ukrainian and Russian by native languages) over a course of few years and it is no problem. Growing up in Soviet Union my teachers told me &quot;Russian and Ukrainian are brotherly languages but you should speak Russian&quot;, now Ukrainian government should say that Ukrainian and Russian are brotherly languages but you should speak Ukrainian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is not really true. By far most people in Ukraine are Russian speaking. From experience I would have to estimate at least 60%. But also I do agree that Ukrainian should be the only official language. The mass use of Russian was brought into Ukraine artificially and for imperialistic reasons. Also if you know one of them the other is easy learn so it shouldn&#8217;t be a problem. However, the problem is that many of the &#8220;russian rights&#8221; advocates are anti-Ukrainian and don&#8217;t even recognize Ukrainian as legitimate language. Why should the government please these people? For the minority of the people who don&#8217;t know how to speak Ukrainian, they need to learn it. I learned how to speak 3 different languages ( beside Ukrainian and Russian by native languages) over a course of few years and it is no problem. Growing up in Soviet Union my teachers told me &#8220;Russian and Ukrainian are brotherly languages but you should speak Russian&#8221;, now Ukrainian government should say that Ukrainian and Russian are brotherly languages but you should speak Ukrainian.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Biernat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Biernat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polka- I deleted your insulting comments as you do not have the ability to talk to someone with kindness, further you talk on anecdotal evidence but it is wrong.  Lets look at the facts. Further your metaphor is wrong, its not British English it is Spanish.  Do not be naive, of course politics is involved.

&lt;strong&gt;Facts on the Ukrainian languages&lt;/strong&gt;
I am from Poland also and my family is from Ukraine so I think I know what I am talking about.  Only 29 something percent of the people in Ukraine speak Russian as their first language. 71 percent use Ukrainian.   Please check a source like Wiki, this will confirm this, not some friend of a friend who says something. Further, this number is changing as Ukrainian is back in the schools and this could change to over 80% unless politicians who are puppets from Moscow reverse policies.

&lt;strong&gt;Poland and the Russian language had a similar history like Ukraine- forced Russification&lt;/strong&gt;
I think you as a Polish girl should learn Russian as Poland was part of Russia and many people speak Russian there right? Russian was spoken in Poland not only during the partitions but during communist times.  You must be a child not to remember that or know all the people who had to learn Russian?  Do you want Poland to be part Russian? 
You have a double standard for Ukrainians.  Many uneducated Poles have this towards Ukrainians.  I do not.  Ukraine should be like Poland a normal self determined country.The Poles who are educated know that Ukraine is Poland&#039;s most important ally in the future as it could have been in the past to stand in contrast with Moscow and Berlin politics.  This is why the president of Poland was really for Yulia.
Why not make German a dual language in Poland?  I mean if you do not speak German than how can you manage in Western Poland?
Why not make English the official language of Poland as it is essential in Poland today?
An official language of a country has large political ramifications. Do you now understand that?

&lt;strong&gt;American English as a metaphor for Ukrainian&lt;/strong&gt;
In the USA most people speak English but many speak Spanish.  However, I do not need Spanish to get around.  In fact in states like New Mexico the majority of people speak Spanish.  That does not mean I must learn Spanish.  No way.  I am also an American and do not know Spanish (that well). 
 
All of Western Ukraine is Ukrainian only speaking.  Russian is not welcomed.  My friends and family from Ukraine do not speak Russian.  They are in Krakow going to Uniwersytet Jagielloński.  
Polka you have no understanding of the way the world works, you just repeat other people&#039;s opinions and insult because maybe you do not have the ability to write intelligently with facts to back up your statements about the Ukrainian language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polka- I deleted your insulting comments as you do not have the ability to talk to someone with kindness, further you talk on anecdotal evidence but it is wrong.  Lets look at the facts. Further your metaphor is wrong, its not British English it is Spanish.  Do not be naive, of course politics is involved.</p>
<p><strong>Facts on the Ukrainian languages</strong><br />
I am from Poland also and my family is from Ukraine so I think I know what I am talking about.  Only 29 something percent of the people in Ukraine speak Russian as their first language. 71 percent use Ukrainian.   Please check a source like Wiki, this will confirm this, not some friend of a friend who says something. Further, this number is changing as Ukrainian is back in the schools and this could change to over 80% unless politicians who are puppets from Moscow reverse policies.</p>
<p><strong>Poland and the Russian language had a similar history like Ukraine- forced Russification</strong><br />
I think you as a Polish girl should learn Russian as Poland was part of Russia and many people speak Russian there right? Russian was spoken in Poland not only during the partitions but during communist times.  You must be a child not to remember that or know all the people who had to learn Russian?  Do you want Poland to be part Russian?<br />
You have a double standard for Ukrainians.  Many uneducated Poles have this towards Ukrainians.  I do not.  Ukraine should be like Poland a normal self determined country.The Poles who are educated know that Ukraine is Poland&#8217;s most important ally in the future as it could have been in the past to stand in contrast with Moscow and Berlin politics.  This is why the president of Poland was really for Yulia.<br />
Why not make German a dual language in Poland?  I mean if you do not speak German than how can you manage in Western Poland?<br />
Why not make English the official language of Poland as it is essential in Poland today?<br />
An official language of a country has large political ramifications. Do you now understand that?</p>
<p><strong>American English as a metaphor for Ukrainian</strong><br />
In the USA most people speak English but many speak Spanish.  However, I do not need Spanish to get around.  In fact in states like New Mexico the majority of people speak Spanish.  That does not mean I must learn Spanish.  No way.  I am also an American and do not know Spanish (that well). </p>
<p>All of Western Ukraine is Ukrainian only speaking.  Russian is not welcomed.  My friends and family from Ukraine do not speak Russian.  They are in Krakow going to Uniwersytet Jagielloński.<br />
Polka you have no understanding of the way the world works, you just repeat other people&#8217;s opinions and insult because maybe you do not have the ability to write intelligently with facts to back up your statements about the Ukrainian language.</p>
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		<title>By: Polka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ukraine:

I am from Poland and I have been to the Ukraine many times, also a very dear friend of mine is Ukrainian from Ivano-Frankivsk. She has told me on many occasions, as well as many people in the Ukraine, that Russian is now essential. She happens to speak both languages fluently. It has nothing to do with current policies. It&#039;s a language. In America people speak English, but that does not mean we have a Queen or follow British policies. The past is the past. It&#039;s unfortunate that not all Ukrainians can in fact speak Ukrainian, but the truth is the majority of Ukraine speaks Russian period. It would be nice for schools to teach both languages. However, eliminating Russian would just prove to be disastrous since in the east almost everyone can only communicate in Russian. The one good thing is that both languages are so similar. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ukraine:</p>
<p>I am from Poland and I have been to the Ukraine many times, also a very dear friend of mine is Ukrainian from Ivano-Frankivsk. She has told me on many occasions, as well as many people in the Ukraine, that Russian is now essential. She happens to speak both languages fluently. It has nothing to do with current policies. It&#8217;s a language. In America people speak English, but that does not mean we have a Queen or follow British policies. The past is the past. It&#8217;s unfortunate that not all Ukrainians can in fact speak Ukrainian, but the truth is the majority of Ukraine speaks Russian period. It would be nice for schools to teach both languages. However, eliminating Russian would just prove to be disastrous since in the east almost everyone can only communicate in Russian. The one good thing is that both languages are so similar. </p>
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		<title>By: Mark Biernat</title>
		<link>http://claritaslux.com/blog/russian-language-in-ukraine/comment-page-1/#comment-60447</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Biernat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ukraine is the cradle of Slavic culture, at least Eastern Slavic culture.  Ukrainians have really had a hard time from both Western and Eastern European powers. There is nothing nationalistic by saying the Ukrainian language should stay the official language of Ukraine and Russians should not try to influence Kiev policy.  It is a very simple idea that a people should be allowed to have their own nation, free and self determined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ukraine is the cradle of Slavic culture, at least Eastern Slavic culture.  Ukrainians have really had a hard time from both Western and Eastern European powers. There is nothing nationalistic by saying the Ukrainian language should stay the official language of Ukraine and Russians should not try to influence Kiev policy.  It is a very simple idea that a people should be allowed to have their own nation, free and self determined.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
		<link>http://claritaslux.com/blog/russian-language-in-ukraine/comment-page-1/#comment-60081</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 19:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really find it very interesting while i read through your contributions!

People, ukraine can only be built by Ukrainians and not Russians or Eu countries.We have great similarities with Ukraine since we also have an Orange Movement here in our country! Can somebody really tell me what Orange is all about?Am not talking of any other country other than Kenya, East Africa! This Orange thing is a movement that is funded by outsiders who wouldn&#039;nt wish to see countries prospering!
In the year 2007 and early 2008, Kenya was about to go to the dogs all because the leader we had who had governed for only one term had realised the west has no heart for any developing country. By the time we were going for our elections, Kenya could factor her budget 93% from local financing!!, This became strange since we had just come out from a negative index to a positive one!!!!, They founded this monster called Orange movement which could hear less of the achievements!The country became polarised to an extent of even wanting  a separate state!!!!!, What does this tell us? If you do not sing their tune, you are condemned, regardless of all that you have done!! They like capitalising on poverty and tribalism, sectionalism ,and not unless you wisen up, people, YOU WILL FIND YOURSELVES IN A MORE TOUGH GROUND THAN WE DID!!!
For politicians, wherever you go, these are very selfish human beings and for any transaction that is not helping him or her personally,it absolutely becomes unpopular and always looks out for irresponsible support to state his stand!!
We had lived for more than 24 years under dictatorship,collapse of the economy, infrastructure,factories closing down.............. these &quot;good&quot; friends of ours were no where!!!!, BUT when we got one of the people ready to develop the country, here they come pinpointing all mistakes we have in all books only because they are not benefiting from Government tenders and there is more transparency!!!
Talking while outside your country is no patriotism!!! You need to be under the tree to exactly understand what comes down and who collects what!

Warm and sweet regards and I need to know who sponsers ORANGE, look beyond the holizon!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really find it very interesting while i read through your contributions!</p>
<p>People, ukraine can only be built by Ukrainians and not Russians or Eu countries.We have great similarities with Ukraine since we also have an Orange Movement here in our country! Can somebody really tell me what Orange is all about?Am not talking of any other country other than Kenya, East Africa! This Orange thing is a movement that is funded by outsiders who wouldn&#8217;nt wish to see countries prospering!<br />
In the year 2007 and early 2008, Kenya was about to go to the dogs all because the leader we had who had governed for only one term had realised the west has no heart for any developing country. By the time we were going for our elections, Kenya could factor her budget 93% from local financing!!, This became strange since we had just come out from a negative index to a positive one!!!!, They founded this monster called Orange movement which could hear less of the achievements!The country became polarised to an extent of even wanting  a separate state!!!!!, What does this tell us? If you do not sing their tune, you are condemned, regardless of all that you have done!! They like capitalising on poverty and tribalism, sectionalism ,and not unless you wisen up, people, YOU WILL FIND YOURSELVES IN A MORE TOUGH GROUND THAN WE DID!!!<br />
For politicians, wherever you go, these are very selfish human beings and for any transaction that is not helping him or her personally,it absolutely becomes unpopular and always looks out for irresponsible support to state his stand!!<br />
We had lived for more than 24 years under dictatorship,collapse of the economy, infrastructure,factories closing down&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. these &#8220;good&#8221; friends of ours were no where!!!!, BUT when we got one of the people ready to develop the country, here they come pinpointing all mistakes we have in all books only because they are not benefiting from Government tenders and there is more transparency!!!<br />
Talking while outside your country is no patriotism!!! You need to be under the tree to exactly understand what comes down and who collects what!</p>
<p>Warm and sweet regards and I need to know who sponsers ORANGE, look beyond the holizon!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Biernat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Biernat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ukrainian, only time will tell which leader was the better choice.  I really enjoy living in the EU and the freedom and transparent laws and government as well as free movement anywhere in Europe.  But if Victor will bring openness and freedom and opportunities for Ukrainians then that will be good. 
I do have to say you kept your cool here when this could have been a very heated debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ukrainian, only time will tell which leader was the better choice.  I really enjoy living in the EU and the freedom and transparent laws and government as well as free movement anywhere in Europe.  But if Victor will bring openness and freedom and opportunities for Ukrainians then that will be good.<br />
I do have to say you kept your cool here when this could have been a very heated debate.</p>
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