Comments on: Rosetta Stone http://claritaslux.com/blog/rosetta-stone/ Learning, languages, EU, citizenship Sun, 05 Sep 2010 16:16:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Mark Biernat http://claritaslux.com/blog/rosetta-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-61990 Mark Biernat Sun, 29 Aug 2010 05:40:21 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=456#comment-61990 I think Rosetta Stone has good support if you have technical problems, but there are issues with the program from a learning stand point at least in my personal experience. I think Rosetta Stone has good support if you have technical problems, but there are issues with the program from a learning stand point at least in my personal experience.

]]> By: Karen Longworth http://claritaslux.com/blog/rosetta-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-61987 Karen Longworth Sat, 28 Aug 2010 17:35:56 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=456#comment-61987 Two years ago I purchased Rosetta Stone for learning Farsi. Right away I had a problem with the written translation of English. I thought I had installed the program wrong and chose Farsi instead of English. I contacted technical support right away and they gave me instructions. The instructions did not match my version. I was so frustrated that I did not touch my Rosetta Stone for a year and a half. Last night I uninstalled Rosetta Stone and reinstalled the program. I can change the written language to Chinese or any other language, except English. If I really want to still use the program with Farsi as the written language, I will have my friend who speaks and reads Farsi read it to me and translate it into English. This way I will know what I am saying when I see the correct picture of the boy under the table. All I knew was boy, not under, and not table. My friend and I will always have to be together when I am trying to learn it. I installed it on a laptop yesterday, and it does the same thing. I have a glitch in my program. They will probably not replace it since it has been so long. Wish I had know what all of their problems are. I could have just learned Farsi from a friend instead. Two years ago I purchased Rosetta Stone for learning Farsi. Right away I had a problem with the written translation of English. I thought I had installed the program wrong and chose Farsi instead of English. I contacted technical support right away and they gave me instructions. The instructions did not match my version. I was so frustrated that I did not touch my Rosetta Stone for a year and a half. Last night I uninstalled Rosetta Stone and reinstalled the program. I can change the written language to Chinese or any other language, except English. If I really want to still use the program with Farsi as the written language, I will have my friend who speaks and reads Farsi read it to me and translate it into English. This way I will know what I am saying when I see the correct picture of the boy under the table. All I knew was boy, not under, and not table. My friend and I will always have to be together when I am trying to learn it. I installed it on a laptop yesterday, and it does the same thing. I have a glitch in my program. They will probably not replace it since it has been so long. Wish I had know what all of their problems are. I could have just learned Farsi from a friend instead.

]]> By: Mark Biernat http://claritaslux.com/blog/rosetta-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-61340 Mark Biernat Wed, 31 Mar 2010 07:24:48 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=456#comment-61340 I tried it and it was just OK for me, however, I will have to check it again, what was your favorite part of the program you liked? I tried it and it was just OK for me, however, I will have to check it again, what was your favorite part of the program you liked?

]]> By: Shea http://claritaslux.com/blog/rosetta-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-61335 Shea Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:31:26 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=456#comment-61335 Try Tell Me More. I have been using them for about 6 months to learn french. great product. there customer service is excellent. they did a free training for me. the software has alot of translation and fun activities. Try Tell Me More. I have been using them for about 6 months to learn french. great product. there customer service is excellent. they did a free training for me. the software has alot of translation and fun activities.

]]> By: Dr. Matthew http://claritaslux.com/blog/rosetta-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-58894 Dr. Matthew Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:40:14 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=456#comment-58894 I'm working on my first language with Rosetta Stone, and have only had the program a few days, so it's way too soon to tell! I did read a lot of articles first to help me decide (I'm a psychologist, so went straight to research by cognitive psychologists on Acquiring a Second Language) - while it's not perfect, I noticed in reviews of the software by language instructors (and you can see this on the wiki page) that languages that differ from European have much more mixed reviews. I can't help but wonder if there's a little truth to the comments above that Slavic languages might have not been as well catered, at least initially? Russian, for example, is one of the few languages with an academic review I could find, and it was panned thoroughly as poorly developed. I'm hoping this is corrected in more recent versions, though! I have V3 of French, all the way through Level 5, have taken beginner level 1 & 2 at the local l'Alliance Francaise a few months ago as my first exposure to a foreign language, and live with my Parisian boyfriend, so I'm hoping I have a leg up.... I'll be back to post my experience later! I’m working on my first language with Rosetta Stone, and have only had the program a few days, so it’s way too soon to tell! I did read a lot of articles first to help me decide (I’m a psychologist, so went straight to research by cognitive psychologists on Acquiring a Second Language) – while it’s not perfect, I noticed in reviews of the software by language instructors (and you can see this on the wiki page) that languages that differ from European have much more mixed reviews. I can’t help but wonder if there’s a little truth to the comments above that Slavic languages might have not been as well catered, at least initially? Russian, for example, is one of the few languages with an academic review I could find, and it was panned thoroughly as poorly developed. I’m hoping this is corrected in more recent versions, though! I have V3 of French, all the way through Level 5, have taken beginner level 1 & 2 at the local l’Alliance Francaise a few months ago as my first exposure to a foreign language, and live with my Parisian boyfriend, so I’m hoping I have a leg up…. I’ll be back to post my experience later!

]]> By: markbiernat http://claritaslux.com/blog/rosetta-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-55236 markbiernat Wed, 09 Dec 2009 13:13:35 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=456#comment-55236 Thanks, I think most people try it for a few months and put it in their closet.However, I am softening my stance on Rosetta Stone and guess it can help. But for me and the Polish language it was not help. That was my personal experience. It did not address grammar and really was more for fun. Thanks, I think most people try it for a few months and put it in their closet.However, I am softening my stance on Rosetta Stone and guess it can help. But for me and the Polish language it was not help. That was my personal experience. It did not address grammar and really was more for fun.

]]> By: Steve http://claritaslux.com/blog/rosetta-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-55226 Steve Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:54:48 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=456#comment-55226 PS: I didn't spend any money on Rosetta Stone, but that's another story. The grammar for Korean is RIDICULOUS. Plus knowing the Jamo(Korean letters) and when some are silent etc is difficult as well. The first lesson you do in the 1st level, 1st unit is a Core Lesson. This throws out everything you'll be learning within the first section of lessons. After you do the core lesson, each individual lesson elaborates on the material you've just learned. So, while it seems impossible at first, it IS explained further. Once you get the grammatical rules down it really is not that difficult. I definitely recommended Rosetta Stone. In some languages it can serve as a stand-alone, but with others, it should/could be used in conjunction with other tools. PS:
I didn’t spend any money on Rosetta Stone, but that’s another story. The grammar for Korean is RIDICULOUS. Plus knowing the Jamo(Korean letters) and when some are silent etc is difficult as well.
The first lesson you do in the 1st level, 1st unit is a Core Lesson. This throws out everything you’ll be learning within the first section of lessons. After you do the core lesson, each individual lesson elaborates on the material you’ve just learned. So, while it seems impossible at first, it IS explained further. Once you get the grammatical rules down it really is not that difficult. I definitely recommended Rosetta Stone. In some languages it can serve as a stand-alone, but with others, it should/could be used in conjunction with other tools.

]]> By: Steve http://claritaslux.com/blog/rosetta-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-55224 Steve Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:50:35 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=456#comment-55224 I learned Korean with Rosetta Stone. It was my main source of learning and I've taken multiple trips to Korea over time. I used it rigorously and it eventually paid off. RS is a little bit iffy with languages that are grammar/case intensive. I learned Korean with Rosetta Stone. It was my main source of learning and I’ve taken multiple trips to Korea over time. I used it rigorously and it eventually paid off. RS is a little bit iffy with languages that are grammar/case intensive.

]]> By: markbiernat http://claritaslux.com/blog/rosetta-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-49858 markbiernat Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:10:26 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=456#comment-49858 Robert, thanks for your reply on Rosetta Stone. I think Rosetta was a pioneer in language learning. Hats off to them for trying to improve the method of learning a language. In fact, I think they are still trying to improve, their teaching method. But for example, the Russian language is all about cases and in their first lesson they give you three cases with out reasons and it is very confusing. I think it was constructed to teach English not every language in the world. I teach languages in Eastern Europe and I learn languages myself and have used Rosetta Stone. It is my personal experience. I think if you get someone who is not an experienced language learner, Rosetta Stone will in the end not get them too far. Plus it cost a lot. But I do not want to be totally critical of Rosetta Stone as I think it could have value for someone who is really gifted for languages and can just pick it up naturally. But if your not one of those gifted linguists I would say this language software might not be your optimal solution. Robert, thanks for your reply on Rosetta Stone. I think Rosetta was a pioneer in language learning. Hats off to them for trying to improve the method of learning a language. In fact, I think they are still trying to improve, their teaching method. But for example, the Russian language is all about cases and in their first lesson they give you three cases with out reasons and it is very confusing. I think it was constructed to teach English not every language in the world. I teach languages in Eastern Europe and I learn languages myself and have used Rosetta Stone. It is my personal experience.
I think if you get someone who is not an experienced language learner, Rosetta Stone will in the end not get them too far. Plus it cost a lot.
But I do not want to be totally critical of Rosetta Stone as I think it could have value for someone who is really gifted for languages and can just pick it up naturally. But if your not one of those gifted linguists I would say this language software might not be your optimal solution.

]]> By: Robert http://claritaslux.com/blog/rosetta-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-49841 Robert Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:44:23 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=456#comment-49841 I don't know what you mean by Rosetta Stone is "constructed to learn English". I have some experience with more than one language with Rosetta Stone. English is my native language and there is no reference to English structure. In fact, the lack of any reference to grammatical rules is a characteristic of Rosetta Stone (RS). RS uses a much more sophisticated and well-organized approach pioneered by Berlitz called "structured exposure". The sequence of images and words are such that you naturally get a sense of the grammatical structure without having to bother with rules. You don't speak your own language by thinking about rules and you didn't learn it that way. I've been a student of languages ever since I was twelve and have made a lifelong study of the most efficient approaches. RS uses all the best methods in an extremely well-constructed format. I've never seen a more intelligently structured method for acquiring a new language amazingly quickly and easily. I can't help but think that some of those who tried other methods after RS and found them better had unconsciously learned more than they thought from RS. You do have to stick with it for awhile and give it a chance. Some people are far too easily bored, too. I found RS highly efficient, rewarding, and just plain fun when learning a language to which I had never had any previous exposure. I don’t know what you mean by Rosetta Stone is “constructed to learn English”. I have some experience with more than one language with Rosetta Stone. English is my native language and there is no reference to English structure. In fact, the lack of any reference to grammatical rules is a characteristic of Rosetta Stone (RS). RS uses a much more sophisticated and well-organized approach pioneered by Berlitz called “structured exposure”. The sequence of images and words are such that you naturally get a sense of the grammatical structure without having to bother with rules.

You don’t speak your own language by thinking about rules and you didn’t learn it that way. I’ve been a student of languages ever since I was twelve and have made a lifelong study of the most efficient approaches. RS uses all the best methods in an extremely well-constructed format. I’ve never seen a more intelligently structured method for acquiring a new language amazingly quickly and easily.

I can’t help but think that some of those who tried other methods after RS and found them better had unconsciously learned more than they thought from RS. You do have to stick with it for awhile and give it a chance. Some people are far too easily bored, too. I found RS highly efficient, rewarding, and just plain fun when learning a language to which I had never had any previous exposure.

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