Comments on: Marriage in Poland to foreigners – 1/4 are fake http://claritaslux.com/blog/marriage-in-poland-to-foreigners/ Learning, languages, EU, citizenship Mon, 21 May 2012 12:49:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Mark Biernat http://claritaslux.com/blog/marriage-in-poland-to-foreigners/comment-page-1/#comment-64962 Mark Biernat Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:43:24 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=983#comment-64962 Why would you want to get divorced? I mean Argentina and Poland are Catholic countries from the same tradition that believe in the seriousness of marriage and love. I lived in both countries and culturally there should be no problem. Further, both countries have beautiful people so why do you not try to work it out? It is a lot harder to be divorced for a girl than a guy and you married her and nine months later you are ready to split? Look, women are emotional. Women are illogical at times, they like to be bossy and if you guys are in your 20s there is a high premium on being right in an argument and think it will never work. But the reality is people need to learn acceptance and to be easy-going. Even if she is a hormonal loaded cannon ready to fire erratically at anytime, know that as a man, you have to be captain of the ship and keep things on steady course by riding out the storm. If it is other Polish women that are your temptation, just know the grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence and know that your faith teaches about such things. There is a reason you fell in love and got married in the first place. I am sorry to write these things, but nine months seems too short a time to just throw in the towel for two Catholic people who come from countries with a tradition of family over anything. I think your visa will be OK regardless. The idea is getting the Visa, they should not take it away until it expires from my understanding, which will be in about ten years. So regardless you can work and get a job and live in Poland and do what you want with you life. Why would you want to get divorced? I mean Argentina and Poland are Catholic countries from the same tradition that believe in the seriousness of marriage and love. I lived in both countries and culturally there should be no problem. Further, both countries have beautiful people so why do you not try to work it out? It is a lot harder to be divorced for a girl than a guy and you married her and nine months later you are ready to split?

Look, women are emotional. Women are illogical at times, they like to be bossy and if you guys are in your 20s there is a high premium on being right in an argument and think it will never work. But the reality is people need to learn acceptance and to be easy-going. Even if she is a hormonal loaded cannon ready to fire erratically at anytime, know that as a man, you have to be captain of the ship and keep things on steady course by riding out the storm.

If it is other Polish women that are your temptation, just know the grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence and know that your faith teaches about such things. There is a reason you fell in love and got married in the first place.

I am sorry to write these things, but nine months seems too short a time to just throw in the towel for two Catholic people who come from countries with a tradition of family over anything.

I think your visa will be OK regardless. The idea is getting the Visa, they should not take it away until it expires from my understanding, which will be in about ten years. So regardless you can work and get a job and live in Poland and do what you want with you life.

]]> By: Zoutzek http://claritaslux.com/blog/marriage-in-poland-to-foreigners/comment-page-1/#comment-64953 Zoutzek Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:53:43 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=983#comment-64953 I've been living with my Polish partner for 1 year and a half and we've been married for 9 months. Things got really tough now for a big number of reasons and we might get divorced soon. I've been in Poland for the past 6 months. Got a job at an American multinational and would like to stay in here at least for a while even if the divorce happens. I've asked at work about this and they told me that they would get my back and would provide any documentation necessary in case this really happens. I'm Argentinean and my karta pobytu is valid until December. In case of divorce does anyone know if that would automatically cancel my temporary karta pobytu impossibilitating me from work or would I still have until the end of my temporary residence to give the new papers to get the work visa? I'm just wondering if they could make from this a problem since our marriage would finish quite early and maybe they would consider this a signal of being fake or something, Polish laws are quite strange :S Thanks. Z. I’ve been living with my Polish partner for 1 year and a half and we’ve been married for 9 months. Things got really tough now for a big number of reasons and we might get divorced soon.

I’ve been in Poland for the past 6 months. Got a job at an American multinational and would like to stay in here at least for a while even if the divorce happens. I’ve asked at work about this and they told me that they would get my back and would provide any documentation necessary in case this really happens. I’m Argentinean and my karta pobytu is valid until December. In case of divorce does anyone know if that would automatically cancel my temporary karta pobytu impossibilitating me from work or would I still have until the end of my temporary residence to give the new papers to get the work visa? I’m just wondering if they could make from this a problem since our marriage would finish quite early and maybe they would consider this a signal of being fake or something, Polish laws are quite strange :S
Thanks.

Z.

]]> By: Mark Biernat http://claritaslux.com/blog/marriage-in-poland-to-foreigners/comment-page-1/#comment-63723 Mark Biernat Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:39:27 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=983#comment-63723 I think some take advantage of the system but humans are innately good and when people are given the chance they will develop themselves to a higher level in the right environment. This is from Adam Smith a Scotsman. I think some take advantage of the system but humans are innately good and when people are given the chance they will develop themselves to a higher level in the right environment. This is from Adam Smith a Scotsman.

]]> By: Jacek http://claritaslux.com/blog/marriage-in-poland-to-foreigners/comment-page-1/#comment-63716 Jacek Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:29:55 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=983#comment-63716 We have similar problems in Scotland with some people coming in and taking our jobs signing on benefits, going to college because we have education and health care etc and taking advantage of our system, mosts of them take advantage of the system. We have similar problems in Scotland with some people coming in and taking our jobs signing on benefits, going to college because we have education and health care etc and taking advantage of our system, mosts of them take advantage of the system.

]]> By: Mark Biernat http://claritaslux.com/blog/marriage-in-poland-to-foreigners/comment-page-1/#comment-63593 Mark Biernat Fri, 27 May 2011 06:18:39 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=983#comment-63593 Statistics show foreign women divorce American men at much lower rates than American women. This is a mathimatical fact. So the question is how to make sure the person American or foriegn is not using you for money or passport or citizenship or just to get married. There is an easy solution and that is actions speak loader than words. Observe their behavior, do they go to church and know the prayers of their faith by heart? Do they question you are your morals and ideals about love and marriage? Do they have the ideal that they would stay with you for all times even if you do not get along because they believe in love more than they believe in themselves? Statistics show foreign women divorce American men at much lower rates than American women. This is a mathimatical fact. So the question is how to make sure the person American or foriegn is not using you for money or passport or citizenship or just to get married. There is an easy solution and that is actions speak loader than words. Observe their behavior, do they go to church and know the prayers of their faith by heart? Do they question you are your morals and ideals about love and marriage? Do they have the ideal that they would stay with you for all times even if you do not get along because they believe in love more than they believe in themselves?

]]> By: TP http://claritaslux.com/blog/marriage-in-poland-to-foreigners/comment-page-1/#comment-63591 TP Thu, 26 May 2011 22:12:33 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=983#comment-63591 Ran accross this post when I was researching about fake marriages in the US. I am an American and I know tons of foreigners trying to marry Americans. Some do it 'honestly' by telling the partner that the marriage is for money; would last until they get green card. Some are less honest in which they made the innocent Americans think that this is real love. Most of the time, international students are the one with that intention (especially girls), at least 90% of the ones I know of, and I do know a lot of internationl students since i live in this area. It upsets me seeing people being tricked. 6 of my friends were tricked and stories like these are passed around daily. The victims were heartbroken. They lost their assets, houses, cars. I know the interview is pretty intensed but maybe it'd better to lengthen the time of obtaining green cards to at least 5 years. That way, either these sinisters have enough time to appreciate & love their partners for who they are and not their citizenship, or these sinisters just give up their bad intention. Ran accross this post when I was researching about fake marriages in the US. I am an American and I know tons of foreigners trying to marry Americans. Some do it ‘honestly’ by telling the partner that the marriage is for money; would last until they get green card. Some are less honest in which they made the innocent Americans think that this is real love. Most of the time, international students are the one with that intention (especially girls), at least 90% of the ones I know of, and I do know a lot of internationl students since i live in this area. It upsets me seeing people being tricked. 6 of my friends were tricked and stories like these are passed around daily. The victims were heartbroken. They lost their assets, houses, cars. I know the interview is pretty intensed but maybe it’d better to lengthen the time of obtaining green cards to at least 5 years. That way, either these sinisters have enough time to appreciate & love their partners for who they are and not their citizenship, or these sinisters just give up their bad intention.

]]> By: faruk http://claritaslux.com/blog/marriage-in-poland-to-foreigners/comment-page-1/#comment-63220 faruk Wed, 12 Jan 2011 22:58:02 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=983#comment-63220 Hi everyone i know about a fake marriage and i want to complain to the Polish court, they are married but don't live together since they married, to who I can complain about it? Hi everyone i know about a fake marriage and i want to complain to the Polish court, they are married but don’t live together since they married, to who I can complain about it?

]]> By: Mark Biernat http://claritaslux.com/blog/marriage-in-poland-to-foreigners/comment-page-1/#comment-62180 Mark Biernat Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:22:10 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=983#comment-62180 I do not know exactly but it will be many years before that girl could get married again. I think there has to be a long time before she could file and legally be divorced if he is not around. I also think they might question if the marriage was a fraud for money. I would not want to be in her position. There are much easier ways to make money than get married. I also do not recommend it as it is very not legal. I think it is wrong. I think eventually in Polish court she can file something like divorced based on abandonment. I do not know exactly but it will be many years before that girl could get married again. I think there has to be a long time before she could file and legally be divorced if he is not around. I also think they might question if the marriage was a fraud for money. I would not want to be in her position. There are much easier ways to make money than get married. I also do not recommend it as it is very not legal. I think it is wrong.
I think eventually in Polish court she can file something like divorced based on abandonment.

]]> By: sito http://claritaslux.com/blog/marriage-in-poland-to-foreigners/comment-page-1/#comment-62179 sito Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:15:23 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=983#comment-62179 Hi Mark, you got be very nervous! :) A good friend of mine (a Polish girl) married an Indian guy for money. That was 4 years ago. They are still not divorced and he would never reply to her email and texts. I just called him asking how he would like to procedure with the divorce. I am scared now that he will dissapear and she wont be able to get divorced. They got married in a different country, still within the European Union. I was wondering, do you know what happens to girls who cannot get divorced? Hi Mark,
you got be very nervous! :)
A good friend of mine (a Polish girl) married an Indian guy for money. That was 4 years ago. They are still not divorced and he would never reply to her email and texts. I just called him asking how he would like to procedure with the divorce. I am scared now that he will dissapear and she wont be able to get divorced. They got married in a different country, still within the European Union. I was wondering, do you know what happens to girls who cannot get divorced?

]]> By: Mark Biernat http://claritaslux.com/blog/marriage-in-poland-to-foreigners/comment-page-1/#comment-61868 Mark Biernat Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:37:17 +0000 http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/?p=983#comment-61868 I think Poland is faster than Ireland. However, you do not have this no fault divorce like in the USA. There has to be a reason. I guess my question is can you get a divorce in some of these quick divorce places, not Poland and Ireland and it still being legal, even vegas. I think if you do all the paper work etc yes. However, I am very sorry to hear about the break up. 11 years is a long time and you fell in love for a reason. Can you but put pride and being right aside and find out why you are came together? I believe in acceptence, that is unconditional surrender of ego. But do not listen to be I am not a wise guy. I think Poland is faster than Ireland. However, you do not have this no fault divorce like in the USA. There has to be a reason. I guess my question is can you get a divorce in some of these quick divorce places, not Poland and Ireland and it still being legal, even vegas. I think if you do all the paper work etc yes.
However, I am very sorry to hear about the break up. 11 years is a long time and you fell in love for a reason. Can you but put pride and being right aside and find out why you are came together? I believe in acceptence, that is unconditional surrender of ego.
But do not listen to be I am not a wise guy.

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