Fake marriages in Poland
In my post marriage in Poland I tell you about how to get married in Poland. However in this post you are reading, I talk about a problem in Poland, that is at least 1/4 of all the marriages in Poland to foreigners are for fake. This is an estimate by a Polish newspaper. I have a blog post about marriage and I get spammed by 100s of people all the time from Africa and the Middle East asking how they can find a girl to marry. I love Africa and the Middle East, however, these guys are dishonest. Some claim it is for love and others are more honest and say it is for money. Others ask how they can get a Polish girl to fall in love with them so they can get a citizenship for Europe. These spammers and marriage for citizenship bidders are annoying. I can understand that they do not like the economic situation they live in. I really do, but what they want is illegal and immoral and they are very insincere. Europe will be flooded with people from around the world because they know the law and there is an easy way to get into Europe. That is marry a European.
I wonder why some Polish girls fall for it. I am an American married in Poland. I am really in love and my wedding was for love. However, people from around the world seek out Polish girls to marry so they can get an EU citizenship. The price on the market for a false wedding in Poland to a foreigner is about 5 to 10 thousand Euro. That is a foreigner guy pays a Polish girl. This is very wrong and the Polish government and police are getting wise to this.
How Polish girls get burned after their fake wedding
When there is one of these arrangements, a wedding for EU citizenship the funny thing is the guys more times than not, just take off. They never give the Polish girl the civil divorce they promised (they are all civil marriages) and they disappear. The Polish girl can now never get married again. Why? Because she is still legally married in Poland. And once you are married you are married all over the world. So this fake (for money or they get tricked into believing it is love) marriage to a foreigner ruins their lives.
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18 responses to Marriage in Poland to foreigners – 1/4 are fake
This is only one sided thinking. It depends on the relation between them. There are lot of girls in Poland that married with their our polish guys but later these girls get divorced. Maybe these girls were not happy with them.
Also there are lot of girls that married with foreigners like middle eastern guys. But they living happily and their marriage is succeed. In Poland foreigners like people from UAE and middle east countries Pakistan and India having big business and they have wife from Poland and their marriages are succeed. Maybe these girls get married with them for money?
You are very right, many girls in Poland are marrying guys from other countries all over the world and are happy. I do not know the statistics. I am not against this as I am an American married to a Polish citizen.
I am just stating that some people are doing it for money or citizenship, while others are doing it for love. I got married in Poland for love. I can not judge others.
It is very easy to judge people who get fake marriages, but the truth is that many of them don’t have much choice about it. I am a Polish student in Scandinavia and i am working my ass off in order to be able to finish my studies. I work in a restaurant with people from India and Pakistan and one of them has asked me today if i will marry his friend to help him stay in Europe. He would pay me double the amount i earn each month if i did that. Of course i will not do it because i don’t want to get in trouble with the law, but the proposition was very tempting and i can understand people who decide on a fake marriage.
While i struggle to pay my rent and am not even entitled to a student discount on bus tickets, my fellow students from Scandinavia or Germany are having the time of their lives, shopping for expensive clothes and spending holidays in Egypt for the student support money they get from their respective governments. But while that is merely a bit depressing, the situation of my co-workers is often that they have escaped extreme poverty in their home country, and are supporting their huge families by working 13-14 hours every day. They will do anything to stay in Europe, as going back is simply not an option for them. I wish we lived in a world where people would only get married for love, but the reality is sadly what it is.
Those Polish ladies who agreed to such an arrangement are not doomed to never marry again. You can get divorced in Poland if you go to court and declare that your spouse has abandoned you, foreign or not.
Is it so easy to get EU citizenship? I practically had to give birth on the clerks desk to get my permanent residence, but it was right before the EU.
Chris, To get an EU citizenship is doing lots and lots of paperwork. If someone thinks they can just pick one up because they come from the US they are wrong. You have to have 1) reason 2) lots of paperwork. But all that said if you want a citizenship you can get one.
Yes Polish women can get out of the marriage, however, if the man is not there to sign the paper, it is very hard if not impossible. Polish judges know about this scam and they do not sign these papers as they know the marriage was for an EU citizenship.
I think that the judges do not sign the decree as a way of making an example out of these women but these women may appeal and in the end, divorce will be granted.
After getting my right to settle in Poland I went back and forth between the idea of Polish citizenship or EU citizenship. I visited the local government office where the clerk informed that I would have to give up my American citizenship ! And that in fact foreigners cannot get Polish passports. I of course know that that is not true but what about some of those people who come to her office and do not know. Sad but true story.
You are right the people who work in the Polish offices are the least informed about Polish laws or they are telling people wrong things because they have an agenda. So I guess you have Polish citizenship by now? I highly recommend it. I have a green card for Poland and waiting for years for a citizenship.
Well and about giving up your US citizenship, its not all bad, as taxes in the US are high and as a US citizen you must report your world wide income and all bank accounts foreign and domestic forever, as does your spouse if you put them on the return. Or you face five years in a federal ‘bump me in the as” federal prison and 1/4 million dollar fine, just for failure to report this. So many people have no problem to give up their US citizenship.
I am married in Poland and live in Poland and pay both US and Polish taxes even though the US has a high exclusion. However, if I ever made real money I see no great benefit to having a US passport. America is not what it was for our parents.
What this guys are saying is not true,and i have been in Poland for years now sure thing had never happened,please for your information the comment are false and we should not believe it.
It is true. I have lived here many years and I have a blog about marriage in Poland and most of the people who are foreigners are fake marriages in my opinion. Further, this is an official estimate and you can search it and look it up yourself. Also I think more than 1/4 of the marriages to foreigners are fake. And last you used all caps in your comment please do not do this.
“America is not what is was for our parents” yeah im gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on that one. I know for a fact there are many people in Poland living in poverty and some dont even have running water. If Poland was such a great country, then why have so many Polish immigrants flooded the United Kingdom and Ireland? The US may have its problems, but were still the land of milk and honey. Which may also explain why we have hundreds of thousands of ILLEAGAL Polish immigrants. And I thought it was the other way around- gold digging Polish (and other when from Slavnic countries) marrying AMERICAN men for green cards, which is no different than prostitution.
Whims, what planet are you from? Poland is the only country in all of Europe and the Americas that is growing in 2009. Do you know that? Poland had immigrants largely because of the currency. You could earn GBP, dollars or Euros and convert them to Polish currency and you are rich. But if you are comparing the average bloke in the UK and a person living in Poland I would rather live in Poland. In fact I am an American from Boston living in Poland.
The economist magazine had a study that said if you are a manager for a company you are better off in Warsaw than London based on cost of living and other factors.
Who do you know in Poland does not have running water. I have lived here 6 years and travel all though the countryside and never seen it. You have some prejudices you have to look at.
Also the UK has poor school, drugs and crime. Poland at this juncture does not have this like the UK. Also in the UK it rains all the time. I am happy I am in Poland.
Well I think that if Poland is so wonderful,then they all should go back then, because while they’ve been in the UK,there is no longer any jobs for the English,and my kids are now staying in school till 18yrs of age,because no jobs left,I’ve nothing against the Polish, Romanians etc,but they r here for money,our country has enough of there own poverty to deal with.our country is now really struggling,and the English r been penalized with it, while we go further into poverty, loose our jobs and homes these immigrants are getting top priority first,half of the UK r sitting in squaller while sum of these foreign family’s are living in 3 story houses.that the government will help pay for while they don’t have jobs.the government is to blame yes,and I understand your point bout these Polish girls been conned in marriage, I no its not our English lads who r doing that as they obviously don’t need green cards and its Africans,but what bout the Polish girls that are coming here to get pregnant to our men then return home and sting these men for maintenance,and marry to then claim half of our English mens assets etc,then go home,till they want to make more money again its all about the individual person isn’t it and what there intentions r, my view is yes these girls are been victims like u say but,but u also have to understand that sum Polish girls intentions are not totally honest either in sum cases sum are also plotting and scheming, and in the same category as the people who make them victims.they earn there money then go home and that money when converted increases,nothing wrong with that,but when they are driving a country more into the ground that the government have already done, then whats left for us in the UK, what jobs do our kids av to go to when they no longer need education, absolutely none.English people are loosing there homes because they av lost there job to an immigrant because there cheaper, people are ending up homeless,should we then cum there,and prey that we get treated with top priority like they do here.same same. same everywhere.i don’t like whats happening to these naive Polish girls that are tricked into marriage,but I also don’t like what they are also doing.I’m not trying to b awkward saying this its just an opinion,like u don’t like these false marriage behaviour, I don’t like sum of there behaviour,however I know in saying all of what I said I no there are some honest decent Polish too.so if Poland is so great y are they helping run our country further into the ground.because they get paid more her then convert it into even more when going home.if we came their for jobs we wouldn’t get paid as well n still couldn’t cum home and survive because we wouldn’t b paid enough to live.yet no jobs here. all down to systems,and every system just seems wrong.
whim’s comment is right, sum these girls marry for money and they do sting our UK men,it really isn’t any different from pros.just as much as u say its the men at fault for doing it to these girls,sum of these girls are at fault for what they do, i no a guy who ended a 20yr marriage, hes 45, n ended it for a young polish 19yr old.now he is alone after she got what she wanted,n his x wife, her world has still been destroyed,he can never go back to his x wife,but she still suffers daily at the fact she lost not just her husband of 20yrs,but her kids farther,her best friend, the other half of her that will now always feel missing to her, these girls just are not destroying marriages to get Wait they want, they are emotionally destroying people,n sum of these marriage breakups will never b healed r repaired and all because of these polish girls throwing themselves at UK and Ireland men.there just as bad are not they.u shouldn’t think 1 sided,its polish girls at fault to, if you are happy married to a polish then u are 1 of the rare lads that have found that real love,its wonderful, but not all these girls are innocent.not all these girls do it for love.like whim says there prostituting really for doing it,just because there not stood under red lights,and having many men,n avin just 1 man,there still doing it.
I cant believe what I am reading here on this site! Ive just been asked by a Polish girl (24) resident in UK and unsuccessfully married to a Polish man, for £3,000. “To advance towards university fees”. I don’t know what I’m going to hear next from the women of the world. All they ever marry for is money and all you young male dudes need to wake up and understand that THAT IS ALL MARRIAGE IS! And if it doesn’t happen in marriage, a woman will seek it outside marriage; just like sex. Love in marriage is a utopia, completely mutual satisfying s_x is another, but the core of marriage is for financial reasons, if for producing kids or any other reason; and if it doesn’t happen in marriage, women will always look elsewhere unless they are loaded with money themselves. The woman who asked me for £3,000 has my respect because she was upfront. But she wont get it from me.
We are US citizens. My son wants to marry a girl,Nina, from Katowice who has a son, Patryk. Her husband has been gone for years, and does not even see his child but he won’t cooperate with a divorce. He says that he will but when the time arrives to go to court he won’t show up.
Nina lives at home with her parents and her son. My son pays half of the household bills, all of Nina’s support and the majority of Patryk’s support.
These two have spent a lot of money trying to get this divorce with no success. Is there someone who can help them or is it just not possible for Nina to get a divorce?
I suspect they may have paid money to legal advisors who did not care if the divorce was obtained.
I am very sorry to hear about your situation. In Poland divorce is not easy like in the USA. But I think there is a law that if the man or woman disappears than after some time the other person can get a divorce. Polish law is very clear about this, it is under family law. You need to get a lawyer who will tell you exactly. At the US embassy they have a list of trusted lawyers that speak English. I think to look something like that up and tell you exactly what you need to do would not be more than 100 usd, I think.
Also if you want you can do the work yourself by going to the Polish Uząd and they will guide you on this. There is something in the codex that describes this clearly. If you can find that line of law you will be all set.
This is what I think.
Hi, I hope you are still running this blog.
I am an Irish male who married a Polish woman, in Poland, 11 years ago.
We both now live in Ireland, but are fairly recently separated.
Can I file for divorce in Poland, as we were married there, as it is quicker than divorce in Ireland (5 years)?
I do not mind being sited as the person at fault etc if it speeds things up, I just want out.
Oh, almost forgot, how long does it take to get a divorce in Poland please?
I think Poland is faster than Ireland. However, you do not have this no fault divorce like in the USA. There has to be a reason. I guess my question is can you get a divorce in some of these quick divorce places, not Poland and Ireland and it still being legal, even vegas. I think if you do all the paper work etc yes.
However, I am very sorry to hear about the break up. 11 years is a long time and you fell in love for a reason. Can you but put pride and being right aside and find out why you are came together? I believe in acceptence, that is unconditional surrender of ego.
But do not listen to be I am not a wise guy.
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